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[–] 47 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You know what a gun is. A lethal weapon

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Except in this case the lethal weapon was the main character.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    It’s not so much a sci-fi film as a horror film in a sci-fi setting.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is that like saying Star Trek is more of a Western show with a sci-fi setting?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What makes something a sci-fi film?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    This really depends. Are we talking about “hard” science fiction (where the science is the main driver of the story, like much of Star Trek where attempts are made to explain the fictional science) or “soft” science fiction (like Dune, where the science is not really explained, more assumed, and serves as the background for the film)? I’d argue Alien falls into the former because the biology of the xenomorph is the major focus of the story.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm perhaps way off, but to me sci-fi is pretty much any narrative that mirrors our own world but with specific differences that have an effect on the story. Eg a story that's a regular setting but everyone has to pay for oxygen, or a story set in an alternate history where the British empire never faded. The differences are variables that can be used to view humanity from a different perspective.

    To me Star Trek and Dune are essentially fantasy settings. Star Trek though obviously has sci-fi stories. Eg depicting a broadly post-racial society but using aliens as a tool to explore racism in our own culture.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    "its not so much a square, as it is a square inside circle! Aha! points at head"

    "I dont understand. Why is it not a square now, exactly? It still has 4 equa..."

    "Because....circle...."

    "Im not sure you have the firmest grasp on how shapes work."

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sharknado is exactly what it says on the tin

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I can never get in to Sharknado.

    It just… sucks.

    Like I get that it’s supposed to be corny and stupid, but I like my corny and stupid to be a function of the creators incompetence and a $257 budget most spent on aluminum foil.

    Like the movie “Independents Day” (yes, ents and not ence).

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I heard it was Top Gun. :^}

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    best science-fiction film ever made

    Idk about that buddy

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Honestly, there's also "The Thing" which is also as simple as it gets.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    We can debate the top rankings, but Alien is in the pantheon for sure. It's practically flawless as a movie. You could argue for 2001, or Blade Runner, or Close Encounters of the Third Kind. But you would have to at least compare those to Alien to prove they're better in some way.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    All of those except Alien could be argued to have pacing problems.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Pfft no, 2001 is perfect. Every time I’ve watched it I’ve been high af, and I fall asleep for a few min at a time throughout it, and I don’t miss anything at all!

    I certainly wouldn’t want to watch it sober, though.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I sometimes miss the excellent straight-scifi film that gets interrupted by the horror move that breaks out.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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    Aliens is quite possibly the most perfect sequel to any movie ever. Rocky II, Terminator 2, Godfather Part 2, Empire Strikes Back, it's up there with the best of the best.

    What makes Alien/Aliens special is that they are entirely different movies. Different styles, different feel, and almost an entirely different cast. All those other excellent sequels were continuations of the story, using characters and settings established in the first film. You start with Godfather Part 2, and you'll be almost entirely lost with who is who and why you should care. You can go into Aliens entirely blind, and you'll still get like 90% of the enjoyment. Watching Alien improves the experience, but is actually unnecessary.

    And that's part of why it's so good. You should watch Alien, not just for the backstory on Aliens but because it's an amazing standalone film.

    It woulda been cool to get some more sequels, but alas...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Exactly.

    Alien is a horror film.

    Aliens is an action film.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    1979: Ridley Scott directs "Alien".

    1981: James Cameron works as a production designer on a Roger Corman "cash-in" of Alien called "Galaxy of Terror". It's mostly awful (mostly due to the giant maggot rape scene), but some of the production design is WAY better than anything in this movie has any right to be.

    1986: James Cameron directs "Aliens".

    I'm using the release years here as opposed to production for simplicity, but Aliens is really just a cash-in of a cash-in of Alien.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yep, and I'd say they are both sci-fi, so it's fine to compare them on the list of best sci-fi. But I give the nod to Alien because I enjoy that more as a horror movie than I enjoy Aliens as an action movie. Like if we were ranking horror movies, Alien would be in the top 10, maybe top five. For action movies, I'd put Aliens in the top 20, maybe top 10.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. Alien is is my top four on Letterboxd.

    I love Aliens, but I do think it’s inferior.

    I love the characters, set pieces, and all but it’s just not there.

    Hell, I rewatched Predator recently. I think it may be superior.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    The matrix would like a word, as would Jurassic Park, and independence day. All three are far better than alien or aliens. I admit that I have a bias against sigourney weaver. She sucked in that and sucked in avatar. I've never seen a good movie that she was in. But the alien movies are highly overrated.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I love all those movies. And if you don't like an actress, I'm not going to convince you that you're wrong. You like what you like.

    From a holistic view, I'd point out that the three movies you mentioned were also pioneers in filmmaking. They each invented new technologies to do new things. Independence Day in green screens and explosions, Jurassic Park in blending CG with pratical puppetry, and Matrix created a new type of multicamera stop-motion slow-motion.

    But they all borrowed heavily from Alien and Aliens. Each of the movies you mentioned had a direct homage to the Alien franchise. In aesthetic, in atmosphere, in creature design, they all stood on the shoulders of Ridley Scott and HR Geiger.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've never seen a good movie that she was in

    You talking shit about ghostbusters, peasant?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    ALIEN is a movie designed around making men understand the horrors of r*pe.

    All three films you menion as alternatives came out in a post-ALIEN world, mind you.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Yeah well it's called 'heat'

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  • They misspelled “The Thing.”

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It is, the Gun is just Naked (the OG trilogy.)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    "Shoot em Up". ?

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's always bothered me that someone went and called their band "Death", but I find it difficult to articulate why.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    "You have a horror movie named Alien??? That's reeaally offensive no wonder everyone keeps invading you."

    • The Doctor (an alien)
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  • Bullet was a pretty good movie.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Aliens are not a core element of science fiction. It should be named Future

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