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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 year ago (29 children) best science-fiction film ever made Idk about that buddy permalink fedilink source hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 36 points 1 year ago (4 children) Honestly, there's also "The Thing" which is also as simple as it gets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ech@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago This is my vote as well. And it fits the prompt! permalink fedilink source parent [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Yeah but that was actually good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Here's The Thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago Nah man, that's just a dog. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (22 children) We can debate the top rankings, but Alien is in the pantheon for sure. It's practically flawless as a movie. You could argue for 2001, or Blade Runner, or Close Encounters of the Third Kind. But you would have to at least compare those to Alien to prove they're better in some way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (6 children) All of those except Alien could be argued to have pacing problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Pfft no, 2001 is perfect. Every time I’ve watched it I’ve been high af, and I fall asleep for a few min at a time throughout it, and I don’t miss anything at all! I certainly wouldn’t want to watch it sober, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Upvoted simply for the concept of "it's only good if you're high" that was a ridiculously boring, shitty movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Try it high ;) you might feel different! permalink fedilink source parent [–] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I sometimes miss the excellent straight-scifi film that gets interrupted by the horror move that breaks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sunshine. I loved the first 2/3rds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Sunshine was special until the monster permalink fedilink source parent [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) Ahem....Aliens permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Aliens is quite possibly the most perfect sequel to any movie ever. Rocky II, Terminator 2, Godfather Part 2, Empire Strikes Back, it's up there with the best of the best. What makes Alien/Aliens special is that they are entirely different movies. Different styles, different feel, and almost an entirely different cast. All those other excellent sequels were continuations of the story, using characters and settings established in the first film. You start with Godfather Part 2, and you'll be almost entirely lost with who is who and why you should care. You can go into Aliens entirely blind, and you'll still get like 90% of the enjoyment. Watching Alien improves the experience, but is actually unnecessary. And that's part of why it's so good. You should watch Alien, not just for the backstory on Aliens but because it's an amazing standalone film. It woulda been cool to get some more sequels, but alas... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Exactly. Alien is a horror film. Aliens is an action film. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago 1979: Ridley Scott directs "Alien". 1981: James Cameron works as a production designer on a Roger Corman "cash-in" of Alien called "Galaxy of Terror". It's mostly awful (mostly due to the giant maggot rape scene), but some of the production design is WAY better than anything in this movie has any right to be. 1986: James Cameron directs "Aliens". I'm using the release years here as opposed to production for simplicity, but Aliens is really just a cash-in of a cash-in of Alien. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yep, and I'd say they are both sci-fi, so it's fine to compare them on the list of best sci-fi. But I give the nod to Alien because I enjoy that more as a horror movie than I enjoy Aliens as an action movie. Like if we were ranking horror movies, Alien would be in the top 10, maybe top five. For action movies, I'd put Aliens in the top 20, maybe top 10. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago Yeah. Alien is is my top four on Letterboxd. I love Aliens, but I do think it’s inferior. I love the characters, set pieces, and all but it’s just not there. Hell, I rewatched Predator recently. I think it may be superior. permalink fedilink source parent [+] P00ptart@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (8 children) The matrix would like a word, as would Jurassic Park, and independence day. All three are far better than alien or aliens. I admit that I have a bias against sigourney weaver. She sucked in that and sucked in avatar. I've never seen a good movie that she was in. But the alien movies are highly overrated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I've never seen a good movie that she was in. Galaxy Quest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I love all those movies. And if you don't like an actress, I'm not going to convince you that you're wrong. You like what you like. From a holistic view, I'd point out that the three movies you mentioned were also pioneers in filmmaking. They each invented new technologies to do new things. Independence Day in green screens and explosions, Jurassic Park in blending CG with pratical puppetry, and Matrix created a new type of multicamera stop-motion slow-motion. But they all borrowed heavily from Alien and Aliens. Each of the movies you mentioned had a direct homage to the Alien franchise. In aesthetic, in atmosphere, in creature design, they all stood on the shoulders of Ridley Scott and HR Geiger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I've never seen a good movie that she was in You talking shit about ghostbusters, peasant? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Actually... This may piss you off even more... But I haven't seen it. 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago Oh man, you're in for a treat permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ALIEN is a movie designed around making men understand the horrors of r*pe. All three films you menion as alternatives came out in a post-ALIEN world, mind you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I thought that men learned about the horrors of rope in PE class. I'm not sure what that has to do with Alien, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago It's certainly in the running, the first two are basically perfect movies permalink fedilink source parent
[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 36 points 1 year ago (4 children) Honestly, there's also "The Thing" which is also as simple as it gets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ech@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago This is my vote as well. And it fits the prompt! permalink fedilink source parent [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Yeah but that was actually good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Here's The Thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago Nah man, that's just a dog. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ech@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago This is my vote as well. And it fits the prompt! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Yeah but that was actually good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Here's The Thing... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago Nah man, that's just a dog. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago Nah man, that's just a dog. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (22 children) We can debate the top rankings, but Alien is in the pantheon for sure. It's practically flawless as a movie. You could argue for 2001, or Blade Runner, or Close Encounters of the Third Kind. But you would have to at least compare those to Alien to prove they're better in some way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (6 children) All of those except Alien could be argued to have pacing problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Pfft no, 2001 is perfect. Every time I’ve watched it I’ve been high af, and I fall asleep for a few min at a time throughout it, and I don’t miss anything at all! I certainly wouldn’t want to watch it sober, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Upvoted simply for the concept of "it's only good if you're high" that was a ridiculously boring, shitty movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Try it high ;) you might feel different! permalink fedilink source parent [–] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I sometimes miss the excellent straight-scifi film that gets interrupted by the horror move that breaks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sunshine. I loved the first 2/3rds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Sunshine was special until the monster permalink fedilink source parent [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) Ahem....Aliens permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Aliens is quite possibly the most perfect sequel to any movie ever. Rocky II, Terminator 2, Godfather Part 2, Empire Strikes Back, it's up there with the best of the best. What makes Alien/Aliens special is that they are entirely different movies. Different styles, different feel, and almost an entirely different cast. All those other excellent sequels were continuations of the story, using characters and settings established in the first film. You start with Godfather Part 2, and you'll be almost entirely lost with who is who and why you should care. You can go into Aliens entirely blind, and you'll still get like 90% of the enjoyment. Watching Alien improves the experience, but is actually unnecessary. And that's part of why it's so good. You should watch Alien, not just for the backstory on Aliens but because it's an amazing standalone film. It woulda been cool to get some more sequels, but alas... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Exactly. Alien is a horror film. Aliens is an action film. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago 1979: Ridley Scott directs "Alien". 1981: James Cameron works as a production designer on a Roger Corman "cash-in" of Alien called "Galaxy of Terror". It's mostly awful (mostly due to the giant maggot rape scene), but some of the production design is WAY better than anything in this movie has any right to be. 1986: James Cameron directs "Aliens". I'm using the release years here as opposed to production for simplicity, but Aliens is really just a cash-in of a cash-in of Alien. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yep, and I'd say they are both sci-fi, so it's fine to compare them on the list of best sci-fi. But I give the nod to Alien because I enjoy that more as a horror movie than I enjoy Aliens as an action movie. Like if we were ranking horror movies, Alien would be in the top 10, maybe top five. For action movies, I'd put Aliens in the top 20, maybe top 10. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago Yeah. Alien is is my top four on Letterboxd. I love Aliens, but I do think it’s inferior. I love the characters, set pieces, and all but it’s just not there. Hell, I rewatched Predator recently. I think it may be superior. permalink fedilink source parent [+] P00ptart@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (8 children) The matrix would like a word, as would Jurassic Park, and independence day. All three are far better than alien or aliens. I admit that I have a bias against sigourney weaver. She sucked in that and sucked in avatar. I've never seen a good movie that she was in. But the alien movies are highly overrated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I've never seen a good movie that she was in. Galaxy Quest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I love all those movies. And if you don't like an actress, I'm not going to convince you that you're wrong. You like what you like. From a holistic view, I'd point out that the three movies you mentioned were also pioneers in filmmaking. They each invented new technologies to do new things. Independence Day in green screens and explosions, Jurassic Park in blending CG with pratical puppetry, and Matrix created a new type of multicamera stop-motion slow-motion. But they all borrowed heavily from Alien and Aliens. Each of the movies you mentioned had a direct homage to the Alien franchise. In aesthetic, in atmosphere, in creature design, they all stood on the shoulders of Ridley Scott and HR Geiger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I've never seen a good movie that she was in You talking shit about ghostbusters, peasant? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Actually... This may piss you off even more... But I haven't seen it. 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago Oh man, you're in for a treat permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ALIEN is a movie designed around making men understand the horrors of r*pe. All three films you menion as alternatives came out in a post-ALIEN world, mind you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I thought that men learned about the horrors of rope in PE class. I'm not sure what that has to do with Alien, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (6 children) All of those except Alien could be argued to have pacing problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Pfft no, 2001 is perfect. Every time I’ve watched it I’ve been high af, and I fall asleep for a few min at a time throughout it, and I don’t miss anything at all! I certainly wouldn’t want to watch it sober, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Upvoted simply for the concept of "it's only good if you're high" that was a ridiculously boring, shitty movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Try it high ;) you might feel different! permalink fedilink source parent [–] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I sometimes miss the excellent straight-scifi film that gets interrupted by the horror move that breaks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sunshine. I loved the first 2/3rds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Sunshine was special until the monster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Pfft no, 2001 is perfect. Every time I’ve watched it I’ve been high af, and I fall asleep for a few min at a time throughout it, and I don’t miss anything at all! I certainly wouldn’t want to watch it sober, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Upvoted simply for the concept of "it's only good if you're high" that was a ridiculously boring, shitty movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Try it high ;) you might feel different! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Upvoted simply for the concept of "it's only good if you're high" that was a ridiculously boring, shitty movie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Try it high ;) you might feel different! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago Try it high ;) you might feel different! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I sometimes miss the excellent straight-scifi film that gets interrupted by the horror move that breaks out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sunshine. I loved the first 2/3rds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Sunshine was special until the monster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sunshine. I loved the first 2/3rds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Sunshine was special until the monster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Sunshine was special until the monster permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (5 children) Ahem....Aliens permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Aliens is quite possibly the most perfect sequel to any movie ever. Rocky II, Terminator 2, Godfather Part 2, Empire Strikes Back, it's up there with the best of the best. What makes Alien/Aliens special is that they are entirely different movies. Different styles, different feel, and almost an entirely different cast. All those other excellent sequels were continuations of the story, using characters and settings established in the first film. You start with Godfather Part 2, and you'll be almost entirely lost with who is who and why you should care. You can go into Aliens entirely blind, and you'll still get like 90% of the enjoyment. Watching Alien improves the experience, but is actually unnecessary. And that's part of why it's so good. You should watch Alien, not just for the backstory on Aliens but because it's an amazing standalone film. It woulda been cool to get some more sequels, but alas... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Exactly. Alien is a horror film. Aliens is an action film. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago 1979: Ridley Scott directs "Alien". 1981: James Cameron works as a production designer on a Roger Corman "cash-in" of Alien called "Galaxy of Terror". It's mostly awful (mostly due to the giant maggot rape scene), but some of the production design is WAY better than anything in this movie has any right to be. 1986: James Cameron directs "Aliens". I'm using the release years here as opposed to production for simplicity, but Aliens is really just a cash-in of a cash-in of Alien. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yep, and I'd say they are both sci-fi, so it's fine to compare them on the list of best sci-fi. But I give the nod to Alien because I enjoy that more as a horror movie than I enjoy Aliens as an action movie. Like if we were ranking horror movies, Alien would be in the top 10, maybe top five. For action movies, I'd put Aliens in the top 20, maybe top 10. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago Yeah. Alien is is my top four on Letterboxd. I love Aliens, but I do think it’s inferior. I love the characters, set pieces, and all but it’s just not there. Hell, I rewatched Predator recently. I think it may be superior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Aliens is quite possibly the most perfect sequel to any movie ever. Rocky II, Terminator 2, Godfather Part 2, Empire Strikes Back, it's up there with the best of the best. What makes Alien/Aliens special is that they are entirely different movies. Different styles, different feel, and almost an entirely different cast. All those other excellent sequels were continuations of the story, using characters and settings established in the first film. You start with Godfather Part 2, and you'll be almost entirely lost with who is who and why you should care. You can go into Aliens entirely blind, and you'll still get like 90% of the enjoyment. Watching Alien improves the experience, but is actually unnecessary. And that's part of why it's so good. You should watch Alien, not just for the backstory on Aliens but because it's an amazing standalone film. It woulda been cool to get some more sequels, but alas... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Exactly. Alien is a horror film. Aliens is an action film. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago 1979: Ridley Scott directs "Alien". 1981: James Cameron works as a production designer on a Roger Corman "cash-in" of Alien called "Galaxy of Terror". It's mostly awful (mostly due to the giant maggot rape scene), but some of the production design is WAY better than anything in this movie has any right to be. 1986: James Cameron directs "Aliens". I'm using the release years here as opposed to production for simplicity, but Aliens is really just a cash-in of a cash-in of Alien. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yep, and I'd say they are both sci-fi, so it's fine to compare them on the list of best sci-fi. But I give the nod to Alien because I enjoy that more as a horror movie than I enjoy Aliens as an action movie. Like if we were ranking horror movies, Alien would be in the top 10, maybe top five. For action movies, I'd put Aliens in the top 20, maybe top 10. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago Yeah. Alien is is my top four on Letterboxd. I love Aliens, but I do think it’s inferior. I love the characters, set pieces, and all but it’s just not there. Hell, I rewatched Predator recently. I think it may be superior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) Exactly. Alien is a horror film. Aliens is an action film. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago 1979: Ridley Scott directs "Alien". 1981: James Cameron works as a production designer on a Roger Corman "cash-in" of Alien called "Galaxy of Terror". It's mostly awful (mostly due to the giant maggot rape scene), but some of the production design is WAY better than anything in this movie has any right to be. 1986: James Cameron directs "Aliens". I'm using the release years here as opposed to production for simplicity, but Aliens is really just a cash-in of a cash-in of Alien. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yep, and I'd say they are both sci-fi, so it's fine to compare them on the list of best sci-fi. But I give the nod to Alien because I enjoy that more as a horror movie than I enjoy Aliens as an action movie. Like if we were ranking horror movies, Alien would be in the top 10, maybe top five. For action movies, I'd put Aliens in the top 20, maybe top 10. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago Yeah. Alien is is my top four on Letterboxd. I love Aliens, but I do think it’s inferior. I love the characters, set pieces, and all but it’s just not there. Hell, I rewatched Predator recently. I think it may be superior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 point 1 year ago 1979: Ridley Scott directs "Alien". 1981: James Cameron works as a production designer on a Roger Corman "cash-in" of Alien called "Galaxy of Terror". It's mostly awful (mostly due to the giant maggot rape scene), but some of the production design is WAY better than anything in this movie has any right to be. 1986: James Cameron directs "Aliens". I'm using the release years here as opposed to production for simplicity, but Aliens is really just a cash-in of a cash-in of Alien. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yep, and I'd say they are both sci-fi, so it's fine to compare them on the list of best sci-fi. But I give the nod to Alien because I enjoy that more as a horror movie than I enjoy Aliens as an action movie. Like if we were ranking horror movies, Alien would be in the top 10, maybe top five. For action movies, I'd put Aliens in the top 20, maybe top 10. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago Yeah. Alien is is my top four on Letterboxd. I love Aliens, but I do think it’s inferior. I love the characters, set pieces, and all but it’s just not there. Hell, I rewatched Predator recently. I think it may be superior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago Yeah. Alien is is my top four on Letterboxd. I love Aliens, but I do think it’s inferior. I love the characters, set pieces, and all but it’s just not there. Hell, I rewatched Predator recently. I think it may be superior. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] P00ptart@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (8 children) The matrix would like a word, as would Jurassic Park, and independence day. All three are far better than alien or aliens. I admit that I have a bias against sigourney weaver. She sucked in that and sucked in avatar. I've never seen a good movie that she was in. But the alien movies are highly overrated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I've never seen a good movie that she was in. Galaxy Quest. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I love all those movies. And if you don't like an actress, I'm not going to convince you that you're wrong. You like what you like. From a holistic view, I'd point out that the three movies you mentioned were also pioneers in filmmaking. They each invented new technologies to do new things. Independence Day in green screens and explosions, Jurassic Park in blending CG with pratical puppetry, and Matrix created a new type of multicamera stop-motion slow-motion. But they all borrowed heavily from Alien and Aliens. Each of the movies you mentioned had a direct homage to the Alien franchise. In aesthetic, in atmosphere, in creature design, they all stood on the shoulders of Ridley Scott and HR Geiger. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I've never seen a good movie that she was in You talking shit about ghostbusters, peasant? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Actually... This may piss you off even more... But I haven't seen it. 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago Oh man, you're in for a treat permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ALIEN is a movie designed around making men understand the horrors of r*pe. All three films you menion as alternatives came out in a post-ALIEN world, mind you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I thought that men learned about the horrors of rope in PE class. I'm not sure what that has to do with Alien, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I've never seen a good movie that she was in. Galaxy Quest. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago I love all those movies. And if you don't like an actress, I'm not going to convince you that you're wrong. You like what you like. From a holistic view, I'd point out that the three movies you mentioned were also pioneers in filmmaking. They each invented new technologies to do new things. Independence Day in green screens and explosions, Jurassic Park in blending CG with pratical puppetry, and Matrix created a new type of multicamera stop-motion slow-motion. But they all borrowed heavily from Alien and Aliens. Each of the movies you mentioned had a direct homage to the Alien franchise. In aesthetic, in atmosphere, in creature design, they all stood on the shoulders of Ridley Scott and HR Geiger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I've never seen a good movie that she was in You talking shit about ghostbusters, peasant? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Actually... This may piss you off even more... But I haven't seen it. 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago Oh man, you're in for a treat permalink fedilink source parent
[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Actually... This may piss you off even more... But I haven't seen it. 😬 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago Oh man, you're in for a treat permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago Oh man, you're in for a treat permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) ALIEN is a movie designed around making men understand the horrors of r*pe. All three films you menion as alternatives came out in a post-ALIEN world, mind you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I thought that men learned about the horrors of rope in PE class. I'm not sure what that has to do with Alien, though. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago I thought that men learned about the horrors of rope in PE class. I'm not sure what that has to do with Alien, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago It's certainly in the running, the first two are basically perfect movies permalink fedilink source parent