What are the consequences of this?
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... meteoritic rise...
No, they don't. Meteorites fall to the ground while vaporizing themselves. Like Evergrande it seems.
Edit: @Hugin@lemmy.world made a good point. It actually does make sense of you say meteoric rise, which they did.
meteor means things high in the sky. from Greek ta meteōra "the celestial phenomena, things in heaven above," plural of meteōron, literally "thing high up,"
But do they rise?
meteoric rise means to rise high in the sky. Meteorologist to study things high in the sky. Meteor thing in the sky.
Meteoric rise doesn't reference the rock falling from the sky. They have the same root word meaning high in the sky.
if they considered "ejecta" rising after the metorite crashes and sends material into space.
This only seems bad if you're drinking the capitalist Kool aid. Does this really matter at the end of the day?
Mostly likely yes (insofar as a single bank can matter). When banks collapse it sets off a cascade of debt defaults which rapidly contracts the real money supply in an economy, since most actual wealth (and, in turn, the physical creation and transfer of goods, services, and labor that facilitates) is created via fractional reserve lending. This causes a recession. If it was only this bank, it probably wouldn't be that huge of a deal for China more broadly. But it's not only this bank, and it is a huge number of provincial pet banks all tied to the same development and speculation industry. There's a reason economists have been sounding alarm bells. That's not to say China doesn't have the resources to deal with this and/or the fallout, but it is at least a problem to be dealt with.
“Once delisted, there is no coming back,”
Can someone explain why this is?
This should be huge news, but I expect you'll barely see a ripple. A company with $45b in debt is being foreclosed on. This should have all kinds of knock on effects.
- Banks in severe trouble because they won't get their loans repaid.
- Property development industry slowdown.
- A significant hole in China's GDP.
However I fully expect it to just disappear.
Trading in Evergreen was closed already 1½ year ago, when the company entered liquidation.
So the delisting was inevitable and is not really significant.
Hong Kong High Court ordered the company to be wound up in January 2024.
Evergrande's shares had been under threat of delisting ever since because they were suspended from trading after the court order.
Wound up means liquidation.
But yes people and banks have absolutely lost money on this, but the ripple effect started already before the liquidation, it's been going on for at least 2 years now.
But for a country of 1.3 billion people, $45 billion is only $35 per capita, so not something that will likely destroy an economy as big as Chinas.
It's been pretty much party line that they want this to happen for some time now. Pooh bear famously made this houses are for living in speech and directly wanted to knock out speculation. They do not want to be the West and define themselves by asset prices rising with no relationship to productivity. What the West would view as a major crisis then is the CCP's intended effect. They specifically targeted these highly leveraged developers with the theory (correct in my opinion) that the loans themselves are what are driving this "growth" and it's largely creating a situation of extraction that's pricing out regular Chinese from housing. Even making noises in that direction would seriously spook Western housing prices. Harris's solution was famously increasing lending if you remember.
I'm not sure I follow what you're saying, but it sounds like...
The CCP plan was:
- Drive growth of megacorporation through massive loans
- Megacorporation builds properties
- Megacorporation has massive losses and defaults on loans
- profit???
Not really. What they identified was
- megacorp buys property
- megacorp takes loan based on property+development
- megacorp buys property
- land value increases due to all the property buying
- megacorp leverages the land value increase(now the loans are being driven by loans)
- property development becomes completely divorced from any actual need, instead becoming an investment vehicle
This is the financialized model that pretty much drives the western economy. China rightfully saw this as undesirable and put limits on how much developers could borrow based on assets. And this is the result. Realize that many of these loans were foreign investments.
Sounds like profit to me, houses and buildings got built, rent and housing prices are going down. Sucks for the megacorp though.
Just my speculation but this policy might be a significant contributing factor to the growth of Chinese economy.
Rising prices of assets lock up money that would otherwise be used for more productive investment.
Here's the thing, they can sweep this one under the rug but this is just a symptom. There will be more.
Ah, did the Chinese internet come back online? I heard it disconnected last Wednesday
Only the BBC could spin affordable housing as somehow a bad thing, lol.
The rest of us should be so lucky as to have a generally downward trend in property costs.
Imagine if houses were only desirable to people who wanted to live in them, and were ignored by rent seeking investors? Ideal!
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