The boss of the firm behind ChatGPT and the UK technology secretary discussed a multibillion-pound deal to give the entire country premium access to the AI tool, the Guardian has learned.

Sam Altman, a co-founder of OpenAI, talked to Peter Kyle about a potential agreement to give UK residents access to its advanced product.

According to two sources with direct knowledge of the meeting, the idea was floated as part of a broader discussion in San Francisco about opportunities for collaboration between OpenAI and the UK.

Those close to the discussion say Kyle never really took the idea seriously, not least because it could have cost as much as £2bn. But the talks show the enthusiasm with which the technology secretary has embraced the artificial intelligence sector, despite concerns over the accuracy of some chatbot responses and implications for privacy and copyright.

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[–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

£2bn for food and housing would be nice.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    please don't use people's tax money for this

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    for two billion fucking quid, they should own the entirety of open ai, and have sam altman become the british public's official jester for 5 years.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Can we stop depending on American scraps and make our own AI monoliths.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Based on everything I've heard I think your power is genuinely too expensive for it to be worth while. In the US and china power is much cheaper.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That's easy to fix. The government just need to stop with their stupid price protection racket. Power doesn't need to cost that much, they make it cost more then strict economic forces would otherwise make it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    When I see a screenshot of Google Gemini saying that the word Oreo is a palindrome (it's spelt the same backwards and forwards), I don't know why we're all running towards AI to do everything. Plus there's the environmental cost as well.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'd rather have an angry wasp enema, ta!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    So it's not from Kyle, who's the potential buyer. Just another sales pitch from con artist Altman.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’m not pro this for reasons others have pointed out, but there is a ray of sunshine alongside the clouds of “just give loads of taxpayer money to a foreign company and hope it improves matters”.

    If humanity is on a path to true artificial evidence, one of the worst case scenarios is that we end up with a few AI-haves (read: billionaires) and then the rest of humanity end up as the have-nots fighting over the scraps left over. What we have here is a government aspiring to ensure we all have equal access to the AI future. This is a hugely important thing that should not be downplayed even if the current approach is ham-handed at best. This is a baby that should not be thrown out with the bath water.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Big if there. They were prepared to just hand over 2 billion pounds to a foreign company in the hope that that company eventually comes up with a product that's actually worth 2 billion pounds. Perhaps a better bet would be to wait and see if they do.

    I agree with you in general that it would be very bad for the public not to have access to a true AGI but I sort of feel like in that scenario all bets are off. Would it even make sense to honour prior agreements, does a agreement made under one economic system make sense under a different economic system?

    Also wouldn't the best bet me to simply develop our own AI rather than relying on an American company?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You’re making two competing arguments. One is that AI is going nowhere and the government shouldn’t invest. And another that we are going to the AGI future and we should build it here. If you think 2 billion to OpenAI is expensive then you’ll be shocked by how much it would cost to get enough AI talent to move to the UK and build us something that competes with the top US and Chinese models.

    The government is going to have to make a gamble one way or another and it either costs us a lot of money or risks a huge opportunity. There aren’t any winning options that make everyone happy.

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    [–] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Don't they realize how this looks over the backdrop of austerity they've been doing?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Those close to the discussion say Kyle never really took the idea seriously, not least because it could have cost as much as £2bn

    Discussion

    OpenAI: We could give everyone in the UK premium access for 2 billion a year.

    Minister: Lol fuck off.

    end discussion

    Media

    Look how the government is discussing wasting money on this they'll do cuts and raise taxes.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    A major sovereign state groveling before a US corporation. I want to throw up

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Those close to the discussion say Kyle never really took the idea seriously, not least because it could have cost as much as £2bn

    It's a non story. Sounds like someone from openai proposed it in a more broad conversation, the minister asked how much and that was it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    free mandatory dog shit for everyone!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why the hell would they do that?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nice steady revenue stream. I don't think they're profitable so are clearly looking for more money.

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    Yeah. That makes sense. But given the extract of the article says the uk didn't take it seriously makes it seem that this "discussion" probably amounted to a proposal by openAI the uk asking how much, and then openAI giving a price. With no further discussion after that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yet again. These old farts in government messing with things they have no idea about. Yeah. Let's spend billions giving everyone access to create, post and distribute AI generated crap which is mostly inaccurate and un-credited rubbish.

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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    End of society speedrun

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Let's fuck up the planet even more.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Wtf? Are they going to get an Amazon Prime subscription for everyone as well? If its that important to them that everyone have full access to an LLM then why not host one nationally that people can use

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I guess the only way they could make it profitable was to trick an entire country into a subscription while that country is still convinced it isn't useless

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • I fucking hate the government. They are so fucking clueless. Not just Labour but the Cons, the Lib Dems, Reform, all of them are so fucking stupid and they ignore the people there to tell them their ideas are Stupid.

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    People need food. People need housing. People are freezing in winter and boiling in summer.

    "Please help us"

    "Sorry, best I can do is ChatGPT. Ask it how to survive, or how to entertain you, idc."

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    The tech secretary is the biggest idiot in our government right now which is really saying something. He doesn't have any professional experience with technology, gets his policy ideas from asking chatgpt, accused anyone who opposes the online safety act of being a paedophile, and when a constituent sent him emails about Palestine he had the police raid her home at 4am.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    No thanks 👍

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)


    Prime Minister Palpatine please.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Interesting gamble for a government in desperate need of either economic growth or a very public win.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    There's so many issues that money could be spent on in this country and yet the politicians are desperate to cosy up to OpenAI and give them money for nebulous benefits

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