Greece:

I don't know how anyone could feel transported by being here. Its literally a single block of "car free" neighborhood development. Outside of that its your standard US city with subpar public transport, little in the way of pedestrian or bike infrastructure, and its very car centric. I think if the neighborhood was self sufficient and was of a size where most of your needs could be found within its boundaries then it could work. It would need to be much much larger for that though. Unfortunately that can't happen because they have 1500ft or so on their block and all the land around them is developed.

Greece? What Greece? Where???

Mackinac Island?

The article talks about giving you the sense of community back since you’re closer to your neighbors and can hear them. We moved into a neighborhood that has no privacy fencing. Instead we have low open rail fencing. If my neighbors are playing cornhole in their yard I can literally talk to them from inside my house. It’s been awesome since we’ve gotten to know a lot of them.

Tempe is probably the 1 place I would want a car. No one wants to walk around in 110°F / 43°C heat. I've traveled there a few times and it's like being cooked in an oven

Fun fact: Tempe is named after The Vale of Tempe in Greece.

I visited Culdesac last year to see CityNerd and Urban Phoenix Project talk about urban development. It's a neat place. If it existed 10 years ago I would have liked to live there. Going car free in Phoenix is definitely a challenge but I'm glad some people are willing to try it.

As someone who just moved out of the Mesa, Arizona area. About 10 miles from here. And lived in AZ for around 25 years. A few points, It is hotter than Satan's asshole after ghost pepper chilli night. Your cloths that you are wearing will be physically hot against your skin during summer, in about 5-10 minutes. The gap / crack-fill in the road becomes soft and malleable in summer. Sure there are things to do, but for the next 4-6 hours drive, you are going to the same place that many people are going to and you will be lucky to find anywhere not crowded or secluded. The rent a bike and scooter prices are not always great. It gets hot, like 85 Fahrenheit or more by April and it doesn't begin to cool off until October - November. 110 Fahrenheit or more is insanely hot. The Urban Sprawl is huge, and combined with the intense heat, clouds go around most of the Sprawl. And unless you have a nice paying job and your shit together, you can't afford to live here. But the light rail and the self driving cars are kinda cool.

edit: Holy air pollution batman.

You mean cheap and it's always sunny?

Tourism Greece or actual Greece? Probably just tourism Greece, i.e., a fake product we sell to foreigners.

I think this is very interesting! I’d love to check it out sometime.

I want to believe this is good, but something about it smells of late stage capitalism.

In Tempe, Arizona, Culdesac is reimagining US cities for people, not cars – and inviting travellers to explore its plazas, paseos and Mediterranean-inspired design.

A town in the desert that says no cars is like asking for a spike in heat stroke.

^ Culdesac – the US' first modern car-free neighbourhood built from scratch – she feels transported to a Mediterranean island

I don't think Greece is a carless country. Far from it in my limited experience.

TBH, when I visited Athens, it felt like the most car-centric capital I've ever visited in my life (haven't been to US though). Fascinating comparison to be :)