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I'm not any kind of expert, but I don't think that was good.
The knesset was about to be toppled the night before. He literally did this to stave off government collapse.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice this, all these atrocities are just so Bibi can stay in power and out of jail for corruption.
Yes but also western powers aren’t sanctioning or trying to stop him.
That is not a conclusion that can be reached from: Israel government almost devolves but is saved by a vote to bomb a foreign nation explicitly to piss off Trump and detail his negotiations with Iran?
Israeli society is sick and genocidal, "Bibi" (why are you using the fascist's favorite pet name btw? Leave they for the fascists) is not the sole problem.
It's important to remember the vast majority of Israelis agree with Bibi. As Norman Finkelstein has said, Israel is a sick society.
DOGE, we found some waste
Israel's actions in the past couple years have all seemed like sorta a desperate attempt to leverage the US Hegemony that's protected them, before the US buckles.
Sorta like imagine a kid in Grade 1 who's a total racist bully to his classmates. But the kid has an older brother in grade 6 who has no issue beating the shit outta any Grade 1 kid who fights back. When the older brother nears the transition to middle school -- at which point the younger will lose his protection -- the younger brother starts instigating like crazy, to try and establish dominance while still protected.
Waaay back in 2002 a mate of mine very drunkenly espoused his theory that WWIII was going to be caused by Israel because "that Netanyahu cunt is a fucking maniac"
Nailed it, Pete.
Not content with the Gaza genocide?
They’re a puppet military for the US. Attacking the nuclear sites is strategically in response to the rising nuclear enrichment and failure to form an agreement.
We used to have an agreement, didn't we? What happened to it?
Oh. Right.
There can be no prosperity for humanity with such colonies around the world. Disarm Israel now.
These Zionist psychopaths commit genocide and bomb countries without any consequences. Fuck Israel.
not making the best case for "right to exist"
What case can you make for a religious supremacist ethnostate where they shoot children in the knees for sport?
Are you talking about Iran or Israel?
You should look up what your dear leaders are doing to their people in Iran, friendo.
Yeah & as always US is involved in it. Mind you I didn't deny what Iran was doing, but just like Oct.7th, Iran's current state didn't happen in a vaccuum
what about x?
You're right, Iran is a religious ethno state and you're smart enough to recognize that as a bad thing, but when it comes to literal Jewish ISIS (Israel), you have to make an exception.
Don't bring up other countries I didn't defend, I'm simply asking you to make a case for Israel to be built as a Jewish supremacist state on land already lived on by a majority non Jewish native population, forcing the ethnostate to genocide them just to exist.
Make a case for Israel that isn't "Europeans felt guilty for the Holocaust so they declared Jews are allowed to Holocaust anyone and gave them Palestine"
Why would I? I don’t support the Israeli government at all and it’s no question they’re guilty of a genocide.
Stop engaging in stupid whataboutism then. Getting a few Internet points isn't worth diverting the conversation from the genocidal entity. You're the one that brought up Iran, friendo.
Iran is literally the topic of this thread. Are you mentally handicapped?
As the victim. Iran is the topic as the victim of an unprovoked attack by a Jewish supremacist rogue state actively committing genocide.
And your contribution was to highlight "the victim does this other unrelated thing".
I've spelled it out to you, and I didn't need to insult your mental capacity to do it.
You're engaging in manufacturing consent for the unprovoked attack by bringing up an unrelated grievance with the victim, as if it justified or makes it more acceptable.
You really have some learning to do about the history of Iran. Good luck!
Iran has recently been reported as failing to meet its nuclear non-proliferation obligations and this is undoubtedly the reason Israel describes these strikes as pre-emptive.
I wonder why they would want nuclear weapons. It might be because people keep bombing them.
They started the program on the first government change after Bush announced the US would invade them...
At least they're not livestreaming a genocide in 4k, if you think Iran is that evil I can't imagine how evil you must think Israel and the USA is.
dude you really need to do research how evil Iran is. You're so blissfully unaware. They are literally training Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthi's — all recorded by independent journalists. Not to mention all of the attrocities like raping little iranian girls to "discipline them" before brutally murdering them just last year!
If you're trying to defend Iranian attrocities you really need to reflect on your mental state my dude. There are very few organizations that are objectively evil and Iranian leadership is definitely one of them.
Dude you really need to do research how evil Israel is. You're so blissfully unaware. They literally created Hamas and work with ISIS - all recorded by independent and Israeli journalists alike. Not to mention all of the atrocities like raping little palestinian girls to death to "discipline them" before brutally murdering their families with fire!
If you're trying to defend Israeli atrocities you really need to reflect on your mental state my dude. There are very few organizations that are objectively evil and Israeli/American leadership is definitely one of them.
Dude you really need to do research how evil Israel is
I did and I agree. Both are evil and if it were up to me both countries would be reformed in entirity.
But you think muslims are worse for not doing as much crimes against humanity?
what? You're the one who started with whataboutism:
At least they're not livestreaming a genocide
I think you are genuinely misdirecting your anger at me.
I think you're misdirecting your anger at muslims.
I'm not misdirecting anything and my anger is very valid as I grew up in Islam, saw all of it's evils and managed to escape it. You are free to check my post history. But sure you can invalidate my experience and opinion just because it doesn't fit your sheltered world model. Have a good day and stop bothering me.
Thanks but all credit goes to my mom who realized early on that living under such oppression is not something a self respecting human being should tolerate. Women are often unsung heroes in Islam escape success stories!
Also to add to your point it feels like we are regressing to the point of reaching the paradox of tolerance. People used to be interested in islam escape stories and cheer on the survivors but now often they are being shamed for "not understanding islam" smh
Trolls conveniently ignore the fact that Hamas is literally a terrorist organization and started the conflict by literally murdering concert goers but sure.
Its always week old accounts who take this stance huh
Honest good faith question to try to understand your mentality before you get banned again: how do you justify Hamas invading, kidnapping and murdering concert goers?
Do you believe it didn't happen or some terrorism is ok?
it's not from the lack of trying from dude who are murdering and raping their own little girls.
Good ol whataboutism lol
They've had that government for a long time and were content to sign the JCPOA. You don't have to like the Iranian government at all to recognise that it was not the party to break that deal
Also, Pakistan is a Muslim country which has had nukes for decades without using them on anyone. Being Muslim does not make you want to nuke the rest of the world
I don't see Muslim mentioned anywhere in their comment - they've said theocracy.
To quote from the modlog:
Or because it's a theocracy based on religion that literally says "God is telling us to kill everyone else".
Making claims about what religion says means you're either talking about the religion the country and missed an "a" before the word "religion", or you're talking about every religion. I think it's probably the former, but either way Islam falls under it
People are not able to chose between black and white anymore. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is what they chose. If Israel is bad, Iran must be good. Poor, poor Iran, just wanted to play a bit with nuclear bombs. The decade long calls of destruction of the Israeli state was just them saying "we want to be left alone"! The only thing that confuses them is Iran being one of the main providers of the Russian war. But soon they will side with Russia to be against "the imperialist west". One side or the other, they don't know any middle ground.
Now let the downvotes come my authoritarian tankies
fwiw, I agree with what you wrote here. My intention was not to imply "Iran good, Israel bad," though judging by the upvotes it seems like I've tapped into that part of lemmy. My reductive quip still describes their motivation though.
I'd rather live all my life under islamic conservative dictatorship
lmao, you heard this?
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
you are the problem. Weakling.
If Israel is bad, Iran must be good
Yeah this is driving me nuts too. In particular how people start viewing Hamas as some sort of freedom fighters just because evil Israel is kicking their ass. It's just shit people all around yet nothing can change cause it's a team game not a truth or justice one.
Maybe taco shouldn't have backed out of that deal last time he was president.
Bibi will do anything to keep Israel in a state of emergency. Good for his extreme right buddies but foremost better for himself. As long there is some war going on, their cabinet stays in power and him out of jail for his fraud conviction. Him and his Zionist extremists are cancer for Israel and the region.
I feel like the narrative that Bibi is just doing this to stay out of jail ignores that the majority of Israeli's approve of what he's doing and would not seek a jail term for him, let alone the fact that the rest of the Israeli government would not prosecute. I'd be glad to be wrong, but it feels like blaming one bad apple just lets Zionism as a whole off the hook.
Yup, this is all self-preservation to him from the start. Watch him keep this going for a few more years, then come up with an excuse to "delay" the election.

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