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[–] 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Nobody cares about recognition start sanctioning Israel.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Actually, it's pretty important they are recognised.

    Right now, Israel is de jure attacking 'nobody', obviously from a de facto pov, they are attacking the two 'states/cantons/provinces' of Palestine, but that isn't a recognised country.

    Recognizing Palestine as a sovereign nation is incredibly important.

    Sanctions against Israel are a lot easier to legislate when they're attacking a recognised country (and should be effective unlike Russian danctions, as Israel doesn't have Xi to lean on for support, their support base IS the west)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    as Israel doesn't have Xi to lean on for support

    yea, israel only has the unconditional support of the worlds largest and most influent economy, ruled by a guy who would die before sanctioning genocide…

    not sure i see your point

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Hey, no need to hurry with these pointless (in short term) actions. I'm sure palestians won't mind another month of genocide to be recognized which will change exactly nothing for them.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Again, all these countries will recognise it in September because that's when they can make it official at the UN. It's not delayed because fun.

    And again, this small decision doesn't exonerate them from taking other ones until then.

    This is a good thing and shitting on it is what is pointless.

    Shit on the governments for not taking other actions, not for taking this one.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But the government is distracting public with such actions. Let me put it like this: Imagine your house is on fire, a fireman, which provided and provides fuel to the arsonist, strolls by and tells you that by next week they will pour a glass of water on your house.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    That's a terrible comparison. I get your point, and as I said, you can shit on them for selling weapons, you can shit on them for not doing anything to stop the genocide.

    But shitting on them for making the decision to recognise the state of Palestine is like shitting on the government for increasing the budget of the fire department, because it's not helping your house burning down right now.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    Asking palestinians to disarm without any guarentee to stop isrsel occupation is so ridiculous and dangerous. We won't fall from western propaganda like you

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I never supported that, did I?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The countries you believe that they really believe in a two state solution support that

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Again, I didn't support anything else than the decision to recognise the state of Palestine, I have no idea what you're trying to argue with me about

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    I have no idea what you're trying to argue with me about

    I am arguying the idea that conditional recognition of palestine is possible. The conditions onñy help israel occupation and hurt palestinians rights like the right for an army to protect itself

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    I still don't know what you're talking about. Countries are going to recognise the state of Palestine in September, they're not expecting anything for it.

    The PA made commitments themselves. And they're not exactly heavily militarized anyway.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Carney literally said there is conditions

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    What is he going to do if his conditions aren't respected? Unrecognise Palestine?

    All these conditions are just a way to alleviate the wrath of the US.

    What's happening is that France took the initiative, and now countries are timidly following. Saying there are conditions is a political move, as no one can guarantee nothing.

    But this article isn't even about Canada.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I was right the same bs Canada , France and UK said

    Albanese said Australia had sought and received assurances from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas that Hamas would play no role in any future Palestinian state.

    Other conditions include a commitment to demilitarize and to hold general elections, abolish a “system of payments to the families of prisoners and martyrs,” and governance and education reform, as well as “international oversight to guard against the incitement of violence and hatred,” Albanese said.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/11/australia/australia-palestinian-state-september-intl-hnk

    Israel the occupier get to keep it's army but the occupied should stay demilitarized and be administrated by the same countries who are complicit with Israel genocide.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    France, Canada and u.k was all caught lying about stopping the arms sale to Israel why the hell would i still believe them at anything. Those countries doesn't give a damn about a Palestinian state they always keep talking about the occupying force right to self defense , never Palestinians. They never call illegal settlers terrorists and refuse to acknowledge that Israel itself are the one who are arming the settlers and defend their crimes

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's a pacifier for people like you, you get to relax and say look they're finally doing something, but they're doing nothing of value. Palestinians don't want a state on the ruins of Gaza or the ghettos that remain in the West Bank, we want a free Palestine from the river to the sea, for all regardless is religion.

    Anything short of fully dismantling the occupation, reparations, and the right of return for all the refugees that want to return is just the current situation with extra steps.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It really feels like none of you read any of my comments.

    Never have I said it's enough, or that they shouldn't do more.

    All I'm saying is, recognising the state of Palestine is a good thing.

    Stop putting words in my mouth, and read.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    What the fuck is this! A teaser trailer? Just fucking get on with it.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Why are they all fucking saying September?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's a mutually agreed deadline for Trump to stop screwing around with tariffs and torching international agreements.

    If he doesn't reverse or change his policy by then, all these shill countries will stop following US foreign policy demands.

    Notice how these are all significant military partners and customers of the US as well (UK. France, Germany, Australia, etc).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    They prepare the plan with israrl and the collaborators to meet thr conditions that carney mentionned. Basically we get rid of hamas , we let the palestinians autority have fake control on gaza and the west bank then let israel continue occupation

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The same BS as Canada , France and UK said

    Albanese said Australia had sought and received assurances from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas that Hamas would play no role in any future Palestinian state.

    Other conditions include a commitment to demilitarize and to hold general elections, abolish a “system of payments to the families of prisoners and martyrs,” and governance and education reform, as well as “international oversight to guard against the incitement of violence and hatred,” Albanese said.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/11/australia/australia-palestinian-state-september-intl-hnk

    Israel the occupier get to keep it's army but the occupied should stay demilitarized and be administrated by the same countries who are complicit with Israel genocide.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The survivors of Israeli genocide are free right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Why not now?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Cool! Now do something to stop the endless slaughter. Oh, you won’t do that, and you have no intentions of doing that, and this is just lip service to those dumb enough to fall for it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Wake me up when S̶e̶p̶t̶e̶m̶b̶e̶r̶ your charade ends

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A little late, no? And why wait until September?

    Gotta let those Zionists do a little more genocide I guess.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    conspiracy hat on Gotta wait till their funding gets cleared to some terrorist group and they commit some heinous crime against the west, without any trace.

    Then they back down, everything goes back to the way it was and they seem like good people for their cult. conspiracy hat off

    The way of the west.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I dont get it. Why do the all want to do this in months? Is it to let israel demolish it first?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm going to assume they'll also cancel that without a good reason.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Progress is progress, but this won't make people forget about the arms deals that they signed during the conflict and then lied about (eg: Elbit).

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/06/07/labor-albanese-lying-israel-gaza-elbit-systems/

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