Somehow, AI is going to be responsible for both dystopia and utopia. But the good news is we have 18 months to get ready!

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[–] 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Artificial intelligence was not developed to usher in a dystopia, in fact it had a rather utopic mission. By further automating mundane tasks, AI has the potential to ease the workload of millions of workers worldwide in every job and field, potentially giving them back their precious time of the day without sacrificing overall productivity.

Yeah, good luck with that.

In reality, everyone gets fired, the rich get richertge poor get poorer and 99.9% of humans will live in a dystopia, if AI doesn't kill us all.

Yet the AI bros go like "that won't happen to ME though!"

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If we had a proper social safety net for all the displaced people, I'd be more open to it. But as things are now with rampant greed and a government for the corporations, fuck AI.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I could see your argument if UBI was a recent concept (made by bad actors aimed at fixing today's problem in order to steal the government from the governed tomorrow), but the concept has been around for a while: wiki article.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Every business that fires their employees and tries to replace them with AI ends up hilariously screwed over by it. It's not going to get to take over the world levels in 2 years.

    Anyway I'm safe, the company I work for still use a software written in 1995 so I reckon I have until at least 2045 before they introduce any AI.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh he means a dystopia that is even worse than the one we are in now. 😬

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    We are already living in the worst timeline I am sure it will continue to turn to shit.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This "timeline" stuff is weird. It seems like a cop-out that there is some alternative one we could shift to that is out of reach but we're just unlucky or something.

    This isn't the worst or best timeline. It is just what is happening.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We can take action. We can grab the die that Joel McHale has tossed into the air.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'd love to know what random event in history could have been changed in order to prevent this sequence of events because as far as I can tell this timeline is the result of fairly logical consequences.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    First, I'm pretty sure quantum theory literally allows for what you just described (aside from the "shifting" part, though I'm not sure I agree that's part of the expression).

    Second, it's just a way for people to try to cope with the horrors of our reality with a little levity. That's it.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    AI boosters and doomers fundamentally believe the same thing.

    They collectively agree that AI will be Great and Awesome, in the old sense of the words. In their minds they are building God and so it can bring about either utopia or dystopia, because it is so Great and Awesome that all hitherto history will cease to matter and the godmachine will recreate the world in its image.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Our techbro leaders are so wise they can't tell the difference between God and a statistical plagiarism machine.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    AGI doomers, yes.

    I wouldn’t reject the label “AI Doomer”, myself. But I don’t have a strong position on utopia/dystopia when it comes to AGI.

    Mostly because I think it’s so far away, that there’s a real good chance that we bet the farm on something much, much dumber than AGI.

    Like a fancy autocomplete.

    And hook it up to something unforgivably dangerous.

    Like nukes.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The role of the doomer is to declare that, actually, AGI is juuust around the corner. And it's scary! They're doing the same hype as the boosters are, just from a different angle. It's all the same crap, though.

    But, yeah, realistically they're going to put a chatbot in charge of something important and it's going to fail and the bubble will pop.

    Hopefully it's something small and not the nuclear arsenal, but uh, these cultists really want to put chatbots in charge of the nukes.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, well Google Execs also assured me that email would be replaced by Google Wave which has very good integration with the future of social media: Google Plus.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I found Google wave to be very cool; and given the workflow now, with chats and email messages mixing and docs flying around, I see where they predicted we were going: all day at work.

    They didn't give it time.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So…. What’s the plan for the next 18 months?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Attempt to start a commune in the forest?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Their plan? Bring it about so that Rocko's Modern Basilisk can torture the unbelievers (as if hearing their inchoate speculation about what the-computer-that-can't-even-do-math-consistently will one day be able to do isn't already torment enough).

    These dumbasses have reinvented premillennial dispensationalism.

    For the rest of us, I guess Butlerian Jihad is always an option.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So the US will enter not the rest of the world Jesus the arrogance when us media talks like every country = US.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Only 15 years? That's pretty good.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    so the current dystopia doesn’t count?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    If you think about it, the majority of the world population never knew anything different than dystopia.

    In a sense, the article is tailored to a certain public that has a reasonably good life now and is naturally afraid to lose it.

    But the truth is the world is (and always has been) very shitty for the majority of people on the planet when you consider the distribution of wealth.

    I think it’s important to think about who are the winners and losers in this whole thing. Are these execs so altruist that they’re worried about the average person or is this doom prediction something that serves their agenda?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    With Sam Altman the "OMG I'm so scared that we're building something terrifyingly powerful" pose is basically marketing and hype. Probably the same with all these other AI execs.

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    Rich, coming from someone responsible for it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    It will be a cakewalk compared to the thousands of years of climate dystopia.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I really don’t believe

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    “You cannot regulate the design of a hammer so that it can drive nails but not kill anyone, but you can criminalize the killing of a human by a hammer,” Gawdat said.

    God I hate managers who think they're so deep 🙄

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    While I do agree with a lot of the points made in the article, most of them seem rather basic stuff that everybody has been talking about since AI has started to rise. The tool isn't necessarily the problem, it's the capitalist incentives for which it is created and used that drive us further towards dystopia. I found it rather funny to read a former exec criticizing capitalism. I wonder what he's up to now?

    Also, both the year 2027 and the timespan of 15 years seem confidently pulled out of his backside :).

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    LLMs won't get smarter in the next 10 years, but they will rapidly outpace humans.

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    There's only 2 proposed problems in the article as far as I can tell. They're not novel ideas, and the author brings no new evidence:

    1. "AI"’s disruption of the labor market.
    2. "AI" as magnifier of existing problems: fake news, scamming, military applications, domestic surveillance.

    2/10 would not recommend the article

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    AI is going to be a good scapegoat as to why the current asset focused economy crashes when nobody can afford to buy the assets because they've exploited themselves to oblivion. We're already going into a complete structural breakdown because the structure itself is already deranged. Trying to extrapolate how AI is going to decouple productive value further in a system where assets already are skyrocketing and wages are stagnant is foolish in my opinion. It's already decoupled and barreling down the track with no brakes. It's like blaming air BnBs for housing prices. Stupid and reductive.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I don't think it was made to usher in utopia, but dystopian nightmare seems likely.

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