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[–] 142 points 1 year ago (18 children)

No, it’s because they increased prices dramatically while both quality and food quantity were drastically reduced. Then gaslighted us again for noticing.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    But also people can’t afford fast food.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Not at those prices, especially for what little value they offer.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    For the price of their shitty 2 cheeseburger meal, I can get a really good burger and onion rings from Freddie's.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    $7 still gets you a large pepperoni at Little Caesars.

    It sucks, true, but so does the Mcburnt ass you were about to eat. Twice the trash, half the cost.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'd rather buy a frozen pizza, but anymore those are even getting more expensive than little Caesars. Even Red Baron is up to $4.50is depending where you go. I used to buy 5 of those fuckers for $10.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not even going to beat around the bush on this, but the line must be made in the sand. Red Baron is based, decent humble pie. It does not suck. I frequently buy their brick oven crust supreme when I'm just not feelin cooking.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Same, red Baron has the single best pepperoni I've ever had. I have to be careful about snagging a frozen one, or two off before it goes in. Cause I've gone overboard before and left myself with like 4 'ronis for a whole pizza.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If i can go to a local bar and get a fresh made burger and fries with a regional beer for less than a big mac meal, shit is fucked up yo.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I wish this was true where I live.

    Big Mac combo - $10.49 (sometimes 8.99 when they have coupons)

    Any local pub ~ $14-$20 for burger and fries, $6-$8 for pint of beer, plus tip of course, which is never do at McDonald’s.

    Low end uses mostly happy hour and special prices, high end is just normal prices

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Also McDonalds thinks the pinnacle of the restaurant experience is signing up at a kiosk and coming to the window when they call your number. Uh yeah, I want my overpriced shit food to come to me the same way I get service at the DMV. Sign me the fuck up!

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’m of the opinion they intentionally made the kiosks shitty to encourage people to order in app. It’s a much better experience for the user, minus the data harvesting.

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, it's because a Big Mac meal is the same price as an entrée at a better local restaurant.

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago

    To be fair, fast food prices have gone up so much, McDonald's now costs as much as most sit-down restaurants in my area. Why pay that much for shittier food?

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We all know McDonald's food is shit, but it used to be cheap, so we accepted it. Now it's the same price as a sit down restaurant but it's still shit. So why not pay the same price for actually good food and good service at a real restaurant?

    McDonald's needs to relearn that they are not a top tier establishment. Accept who you are.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The problem is that the corporate machine has already cut their food quality as low as it can be to provide itself with the benefits.

    It is not a matter of accepting what it is, it is a matter of accepting that the corporate class is the parasite on the business model. They are the unnecessary costs, and they're not going to cut themselves.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    There's that old adage about getting work done by a contractor: fast, cheap, good - pick any 2.

    Fast food took off because it was fast and cheap. I could walk in, get a burger and fries for a couple bucks, and walk out five minutes later. It wasn't necessarily great food, but it was filling and vaguely nutritious.

    A couple years ago I was on a road trip and decided to hit up a Burger King drive through. Ordered a whopper with cheese and (small or medium? I can't remember) fries. I was kinda expecting it to be about $12-15, and it was like $22. And then it took over half an hour for me to get my food.

    Fast food is no longer fast, it's no longer cheap, and it never was very good. I can get a better experience and better food, faster and cheaper, from a local restaurant. Why would I ever do fast food again?

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    No, the prices are just nuts. For like 5 dollars more, I could go to a decent sit-down restaurant with service and better/healthier food - while supporting locally-owned business. So I'll do that or cook for myself

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    Sounds like McDonald’s problem to me.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    I stopped going when they doubled the price on everything. The food was never good but it was affordable.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Good. Fast. Cheap. Pick two.

    That's the golden rule for a lot of industries, and fast food is no exception. For my entire life, it's been well known that this is not good food -- in the sense that most people realize it's unhealthy, processed, junk. So, these places basically have to deliver on the fast and cheap part.

    Now, they've pretty much all given up on being cheap. Most of them are as expensive, or nearly as expensive, as a sit down restaurant with a server who comes to your table.

    And based on nearly every fast food experience I've had in the past 5 or so years (which honestly isn't much), I don't even think they're really delivering on the promise of fast, compared to a typical sit down place of similar caliber food.

    So, then when the working class, the bread and butter of the fast food industry, is getting economically squeezed to the brink, I suppose this isn't exactly all that surprising of an outcome. Fast food was for those nights when people were too busy working all day to prepare a meal for dinner, for a bite to each on your lunch hour when you forgot to pack something, or a quick stop while you're on a road trip. But think about how many people are out of work now (don't let the official unemployment numbers fool you). They aren't traveling, away from home during lunch, and they have way more time and much less money so dinner prep at home it is. And people who are gainfully employed with money to spare, they're going to non-fast food places because the food is better quality, about the same price, and usually just as fast or faster.

    So where's that leave "fast" food? It's time to return to the core tenants (cheap & fast) or these places will likely continue to see declines.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Fucking fries are $5 for a large where I live. It is probably ten cents of product and thirty cents for labor, equipment, and oil. Their markup is absolutely insane.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I can get a burrito from chipotle for $8. I aint going to mcdonalds for shit

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Even with the app the prices are insane. Remember the dollar menu? Ancient history

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I used to swing by for a mcchicken and a mcdouble for $2 total. And yeah you bet your sweet ass i opened that double between the patties and put the entire chicken sandwich in the middle making one massive beast. My group affectionately referred to this monster as the McGangbang

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    We take regular road trips and used to stop at McDonald's for breakfast or lunch regularly. During Covid the food quality went to shit and the prices went through the roof. Orders were wrong and the food was regularly inedible. Since we were driving we couldn't go back and get them to fix it without taking a 20+ minute detour and their expensive food often ended up in the trash. Things should have improved after Covid, but McDonald's prices continued to rise while the food quality stayed in the toilet.

    The ridiculous prices alone would just have us going to McDonald's less often. That and the crappy food has us avoiding McDonald's (and fast food) completely. We've gone from a few visits a month to zero and haven't been in well over a year.

    Instead we stop at grocery store delis which only adds a few minutes to our travel time. The food is cheaper, the quality is far better and since we don't have the waste we did at McDonald's we're probably spending 50% less.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    cheaper ingredients for profits. they'd use sand if they could. 2.65/hr

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, allowing a fascist dictator to pretend to work at your drive-through didn't help optics either.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fast food corporations are doomed to die.

    Investors and shareholders will continuously demand a larger and larger piece of the pie every year.

    But local restaurants and non-chain restaurants don't have investors. They just need to mark up their prices enough to afford CPI increases on food and equipments which corporate restaurants also. Have to account for.

    Eventually fast food will be more expensive then fine dining simply because shareholders want more money.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Fast Food does not have to be tied to a Corporation.

    We have a family owned fast food local joint around the corner. Drive through only.

    It pays a liveable wage, and you can still get a full great meal under $10. A young couple owns it, they are very nice.

    There's just no corporate parasite sucking out the profit.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Rent. Small mom and pop shops that can't afford their own space get all that money syphoned away to the landlords. All saving that come from big corporate supply chains and mass production also leave M+P shops screwed.

    Large companies can weather hard times much easier as well, so M+P shops will fall away during hard times while McDonald's will just fire some min wage workers, stop caring about quality and hike prices a bit.

    The system is not set up for M+P survival.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Cause their shit is so expensive. I recognize I'm privileged enough that I don't need to always think about the specifics of food prices, but seriously, the price difference between fast food and sit down food is getting smaller and smaller, it's crazy.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm addicted to fast food, and McDonald's was a weekly thing, if not more often. But prices now are just crazy, and the quality is just slop. I've not had a McDonald's for over a month and I'm better off for it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Okay this is a real question. I'm a huge fan of McDonald's's barbecue sauce. Does anyone know what style it is and what to get from a store that tastes like it? I don't like other fast food joints' barbeque sauce nearly as much, and there are so so many styles and flavors of it. Everybody says "original" and mean something different lol. So any guidance from McDonald's fans who also happen to be barbeque sauce aficionados is appreciated.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Look for “Kansas City” style sauce. It’s a tomato-molasses base with lots of vinegar. You can always add some apple cider vinegar to another style of BBQ sauce to increase the tang.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Beans and rice cook really easy and are awesome foods.

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  • For $15 I'm get a burger and fries literally anywhere else.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Also their stuff is about nutritious as a cardboard Soufflé.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    When they killed off the dollar menu is when they killed their business. Sheer momentum is all that's kept them going. Loudly supporting genocide didnt help.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Bad food and overpriced. Why would anyone choose that? Get bent, McDonald's. I hope you have to start closing locations.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Time to bring back automats

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    rats will eat cocaine until they die. i heard. iced macchiato tasted like cleaning soap. done with mcd's

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  • Read a recipe and cook.

    Fast food shouldn't be cheap.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They're overcharging, but the problem is that with labor costs increasing, they would still be overpriced if they cut back to a really low (>1%) margin. COVID killed going out. Being able to go back to the grocery store after the lockdowns killed ordering in.

    The whole hospitality industry needs to be replaced. It's funny to watch it as it dies, though.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I haven’t ordered from McDonald’s this year. Uninstalled the app a long time ago. Raised all the prices and eliminated all the remotely good coupons and BOGO or BOGO$1 deals. My family’s order went from $17 to $43. There are a hell of a lot better options, both fast food and fast casual, at that price point than McDonald’s.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I haven't eaten at McDonald's in...I'll just say a long time. So when I see comments like yours I just think its complete garbage they price their food like that.

    Ok, have memberships and rewards because everybody does that (even though I hate it) but for it to essentially be 4x the price without it that's crazy. Its cheap (as in quality) fast food, it should be priced that way.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    I look at it a bit like the fire pyramid. McDonald’s works if it is good quality, fast, and cheap.

    McDonald’s is no longer cheap compared to other offerings, and I can find lots of places that are the other two for the same price.

    When my order at McDonald’s is $17, and Culver’s is $55, that’s a hard sell, and Culver’s is a special occasion. When McDonald’s is $43 and Culver’s is $55, that just means I eat out less overall (win), order Culver’s and get better food (win), and spend roughly the same price (win). Why would I go to McDonald’s?

    And at Culver’s that price includes milkshakes for the whole family, whereas my McDonald’s order includes no drinks of any kind.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Burgers are so easy to make at home. Like 15 minutes. And you get to control what goes in it. It's fast food because it's literally fast to make. Do it yourself.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Really interested in long term health correlations to this

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    highly processed foods are also a thing at grocery stores and the article points out that mcdonalds was too slow capitalize on lower pricing, enabling their competitors

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Absolutely. I shop weekly in Texas and when I avoid: the extra sugar, extra fat, processed gains, etc. And only buy meats, dairy vegetables, fruits, nuts and unprocessed ; then I have only 5% of the grocery store, maybe 1% even, to choose from.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The Free Market at work. If people can't afford to pay for a burger at McD's, they won't - even if they want to.

    For the economy to work properly, everyone has to be at least somewhat well-off - not living paycheck-to-paycheck without a dollar to spare for a start.

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