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[–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

I definitely interpreted this title as someone lighting a 110-year-old cigarette.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago*

    That's honestly the most French thing I've heard in a while. Not because of the war memorial but because of the cigarette

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    Dale Gribbel, savior of the sacred flame.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I quit smoking over a decade ago, but if I had the opportunity to light a cigarette from the Olympic torch...I'd take it. Probably also use that cigarette to light the pilot lights on my water heater and then all my showers would be heated by the Olympic flame (technically speaking).

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    Meh. He didn't harm anything. He just broke the rule of, "keep off the memorial."

    Basically, a non-event. Why is this news?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Someone in editorial thought "ah, this will make people angry, and anger leads to clicks."

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Though I would not call this front page news worthy, at the same time it's extremely disrespectful from this asshat at the very least.

    The monument is literally for those that died to give you the freedoms that you enjoy today. It's somewhat news worthy and hopefully it will shame enough people in giving a little respect where respect is due.

    I see this as a similar news item as tourists writing "Kyle was here!" with a marker on some monument and it reminds me of when I just recently visited the Vatican as a tourist where I too saw so many disrespectful people.

    I'm a staunch atheist but I can admire the beauty of the art, and I understand the importance the place has for many people. Women entering are asked to wear a scarf over their shoulders if they wear tank tops, etc. So to my surprise, so many women got the scarf, walked in, the just stuffed the scarf in a purse or something because they didn't wanted to wear it.

    Agree with it or not, that's fine. But if you enter, show some damned respect. Either wear the scarf or leave. I don't have respect for people that don't respect others

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Serious question for you: I wonder if you would feel different if your parent had died in the war being memorialized?

    I'm trying to figure out if you are saying "This doesn't affect me so I don't care" or maybe, "Memorials serve no purpose" or something else. Cheers,

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I wonder if you would feel different if your parent had died in the war being memorialized?

    Exactly as I commented. "Ah, this will make people angry, and anger leads to clicks."

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  • i went to dallas and stopped by the jfk shooting museum. real neat. real somber. there's a yellow x on the asphalt where he was shot, and every few dozen minutes when there's a break in traffic there'd be a tiktok kid popping out there to get a cheery selfie or video. at first, I thought "they don't quite understand where they are, they're just dumb kids" and then the constant stream (i promise i got it by the third one) of them made me realize they were all ragebating us olds.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You are certainly correct about that, but you and OP haven't answered my question. I really wonder if OP was saying that they wouldn't be upset, even if they had a personal connection to that specific memorial.

    My guess with OP's comment was more like they didn't see how it affects them, versus any other answer. I believe society won't move forward as long as everyone only ever sees the world through the lens of "how does this affect me". But this is all just me guessing.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I was answering the question:

    Basically, a non-event. Why is this news?

    Why is this news, indeed? Because it makes people angry. That's it, that's the sole and only reason. There's no other point to wasting the amount of verbiage that has been wasted on this complete non-story of a pointless event.

    Are you suggesting we should have news stories broadcasted to the whole world about every possible thing that might offend someone, because otherwise we're ignoring "things that don't affect me?" There's a reasonable threshold below which this kind of thing shouldn't be worth this kind of attention, IMO, and lighting a cigarette on an eternal flame is well below that threshold.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There's a genocide going on, we have thousands upon thousands of homeless people, the world is heading to a climate catastrophy, but let's be outraged by someone lightning a cigarette with the flame of a war memorial.

    People dying of hunger because of politics, capitalism and violence, it's none of our business. But that man lighting his cigarette, what a fucking outrage!

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    [+] -7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I like to disrespect authority like the next punk but disrespecting war memorials is fucking disgusting. I would have liked to punch that fucker. And smash his fucking cigarette.

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