From age and ID restrictions on the Internet, to charging rappers with “terrorism,” the U.K. is demolishing the most basic civil liberties. If we let them, U.S. leaders may be close behind.

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[–] 157 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I think the US will be fine as long as we don't repeatedly elect some kind of cabal of pedophile authoritarians.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    You mean the Republican party? At this point I'm convinced their voter based would elect a serial killer so long as they said they were Republican.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You mean the Republican party?

    Yes that's the joke lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's just very unnecessary when you're repeating the joke

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's a YUGE stretch to assume there were no democrats in the Epstein files.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe, but they aren't nearly as authoritarian.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Irony is truly lost on this platform

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago

    The US is already well down the path with masked men kidnapping people on the street, holding them without any contact, defunding all sorts of media and billionaires suppressing all sorts off stuff in their media outlets.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago

    That was lost a while ago, but it's nice more people are noticing that it's getting worse.

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    100%.

    Doesn't matter the country.

    Do you work for a living?

    Do you want to live without fear of governments and corporations breathing down your neck waiting to make an example of you or profit from you?

    ...Then we should be on the same side. Simple as.

    Good-natured jabs aside, of course. ;) Love ya, Brits. <3

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  • [+] 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    If you could project into the future, you might see that VPNs are a dwindling non-solution to the problem. As this unsettling trend makes waves across all jurisdictions in the world, every VPN's IP will be subject to these new controls.* Eventually normies might need to understand technologies like Tor or I2P. Only problem is, if things get really bad they might ban the use of both outright. I'm not sure if I2P can be detected just as Tor, but I do know Tor users can be detected easily. Which is why if you're in a "censorship" country you need to use some sort of special subset of entry guards. I2P might be better because every node in the network is like a router, none are specifically entry, middle, or exit nodes. Only thing I could think of, maybe some form of deep packet inspection? If everybody runs an I2P router, then simply making requests to other nodes is not enough to determine it's an i2p communication?* It's just distributed computing, the way the internet was intended!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Any other useful info like this? Tryna snag as much of this stuff as possible (taking screenshots and offline copies of the pages) in the event it becomes unavailable and my existing methods fail on me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    You can simply go to the official tor or i2p pages and read more about details, then do follow up research from there. With i2p there's actually a few parallel implementations actively being developed. Original is in Java, there's a C++ one, and then another one I can't remember. Very new implementations are being made in Rust as well

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Thanks for volunteering to help the network in good faith! I think it is much easier for normal people to get an i2p router up and running and help the entire network, instead of setting up a tor node. And with the use of inbound/outbound unidirectional tunnels (which you can set up to 5 nodes each), you could theoretically have a 10 node round trip of intermediate tunnels between you and a server, as opposed to tor which uses a bidirectional tunnel.

    Some gracious users set up what is known as an "outbound proxy", which acts like tor exit node to the clearnet. Personally I would never host one of these, as I am hesitant of having anonymous entities make clearnet requests and being held liable. But as an i2p router in somebody else's tunnels, you can just imagine yourself as a road on a map that other roads connect to. The road isn't responsible for what people are carrying on it, or what their destination might be. That would be an unreasonable expectation to place on any road. In fact, the router doesn't have any idea of what the exact destination is, even if it's the last node in the tunnel - simply because during the encryption/decryption process it only knows of the next address to hit!

    For example, say an i2p router hosts a git server. It could be the destination for packets, where clients are using it for version control, or it could act as a node in somebody's tunnels to connect with other servers/clients. From the network view, I do not believe you can tell, and that is pretty neat.

    In the effort of being transparent and educating you, I do believe an outstanding problem is stream isolation. You should be able to do "soft resets" that reset your identity, although I forget the exact technical i2p term for this. This concern is for clients, not just leaving a router up. So if you intend on using that router to access the network yourself, it would be a good idea to do that soft or hard reset occasionally depending on your concerns. You can do it as often or never at all.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Pretty much every company that matters decided to go full 1984 censorship and surveillance all at the same time. And the governments are more than happy to play along. UK, US, etc. Pretty much all of "the west"

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    They are paving the way for feudalism to replace liberal democracies,

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

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  • [–] 85 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "and america could be next!" they literally have domestic concentration camps in america there is no freedom there

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I already can't say what I really think about politicians and CEOs without getting banned from comments all over the place, so didn't preach to me about censorship. I'm already chest deep in this shit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    on Lemmy? you'd get banned? what, do you think CEOs and cops are really, really good? and they ban for that?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don't know if you just don't pay attention or if you haven't been on world much like this community is.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I just wanna know if they think CEOs are really really cool or something. like what's the bannable opinion?

    pro landlord?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Very information heavy article. I appreciate that.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lol its been decades since the UK had free speech. I haven't forgotten the Nazis pug.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    I lived for over a decade in Britain until about 5 years ago and by the time I left I truly believed the UK was the most likely country in Europe to turn Fascist within a decade.

    So far, they're well on schedule and there isn't a month without some news about it further confirming how wise my decision to leave after the Brexit vote was.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Britain has never had free speech in the same way as the US, nor even of the press. Only in the last few decades, they've only had what's required by the ECHR.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well US free speech is telling lies and misleading millions of people on broadcast television.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'd argue that's more of a problem with media consolidation and not having some form of truth requirement in broadcast media. When only a handful of organizations own the majority of media outlets and aren't held to account for their content, this is what we end up with and why we can't have nice things.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    UK joined the US suicide pact after the queen. Sad.

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  • i feel like that's a story much much older than the queen.

    England used to be the first "liberal" place in the world, and it invented capitalism. Both spread to the US after 1800, and then UK had fulfilled its role in world history and became irrelevant. US is literally UK offspring.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    What is this 'could be' business?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    How many whistleblowers and reporters did Bush and Obama charge with the Espionage Act?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Come on... Things have been getting worse for a while, but this is a huge turning point

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I’d still like to see the numbers comparatively

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What are you talking about? What numbers?

    Numbers are a tool. This is apples and orange drink, you can't reduce this to numbers

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I think it's odd (and pretty terrifying) the U.K. and U.S. have been on such similar and almost coordinated authoritarian tracks over the last few years. It started with a lot of gradual steps and more recently they seem to be ramping things up (which also seems pretty common for authoritarianism/by the time most people notice something weird is happening it's too late).

    Both ramping up A.I. to spy on, and control/micromanage their own civilians while refusing regulations or any public accountability for the A.I. they're developing.

    April 2024: U.S., U.K. Announce Partnership to Safety Test AI Models

    Feb 2025: UK and US refuse to sign international AI declaration

    May 2025: Brexit’s Failures Could Foreshadow Trump’s. Just Not in the Way You Might Think.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    As someone who immigrated to the UK I can tell you this is a bit of a stretch. I'm not exactly afraid of dying in a hate crime at a traffic stop or ICE agents beating down my door to detain me here.

    But yeah, some internet liberties are being steadily revoked. Hardly the same fucking thing as literally fearing for your life each day because of your last name or the color of your skin.

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    America is already well on its way to lose free speech as well. We have a secret police called "ICE" now, so it's only a matter of time unless the "resistance democrats" finally do their fucking job

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Could? go publicly criticize the Pedo in chief and watch what happens

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Uh, America had free speech? First I'm hearing about it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    US lost thiers before, UK did.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What's happening in Britain, thought current government was a good one?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Labour is centrist and they desperately want to exert more control. English are sheep, so no one will protest daddy government.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Supposedly centrist. They're curious whether being populist right wing on some issues will win over Reform UK voters. It's just that they're so curious and are doing this so often that they're well on their way into morphing into a right wing party.

    so no one will protest daddy government.

    Yea this is a problem..

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Britain never had free speech and always have been a absolute nanny state. It's a prime example that government overreach does not result in any safety improvements.

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    [–] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hasn’t Britain always been like this? Are people generally upset about this or just a vocal online minority? I mean I would never support something like this but if the people support it well, it’s their will.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, the younger ones don't remember all the dystopic shit under Thatcher. Sure analog cameras in every corner isn't as effective as AI monitoring 24/7, but it's not like the intention was different.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    Don't you guys cheer ending free speech anytime you are in power? I'm all for you joining the team, but please stop vilifying the people who got there before you.

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