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[–] 113 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Lemmy, how do I feel about this?

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Be precise. Based on My interactions with Lemmy, will I find this true or false. Write My opinion in 3 sentences.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Certainly! You believe that this is very not good. You think that this will lead to the end of human civilisation. You would rather kill whomever is responsible than keep having to watch the steady decline. As a solution you should listen to more Kesha.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hey remember how social media cause all types of cognitive issues? Y’all ready for round two?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    I argue its worse, in the end whatever is being regurgitated from what they see on youtube ends with the video duration, but these people are to believe that these things think - hell they think the AI is smarter than themselves and defer all judgement. I wish it remained an internet phenomena but I've met too many true believers already 😑

    /anecdote

    Guy in one of my code classes, would not just fucking tell me if he wrote his code, or the AI did. I knew the AI did, because you don't come asking why it's not working when he didn't declare any variables, big red error "variable not declared". It was the end of that semester, I was there with him every single period. The audacity to have me debug the shitbot's chicken scratch, claim its super helpful, but also cover its dumb ass by being an even bigger dumbass and fail probably the easiest javascript course you could've asked for. I am honestly still in awe.

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    [–] 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Sometimes I worry I'm too lazy. Then I read headlines like this.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I worry that people who rely on AI will become skilled in making it seem like they aren't. Fortunately a lot of them don't seem very good at that yet.

    I've done a few job interviews where it was very clear the interviewee was using Chat GPT or something to answer almost every question. But there may soon come a day when it's not obvious, and then we waste time hiring someone incapable of critical thinking who types proprietary company information into an LLM prompt.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If you were reading this headline at work u might still be lazy doe

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Am I the only one who tried a LLM like twice, saw it gave out bullshit, then never tried it again (though I do see it forced on me with general searches, be it google or DDG or Bing or kinda anywhere now)?

    I tried Copilot to answer a couple of coding questions, and I ended up having to take as much time to double check the answers/code it didn't seem worth it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    FYI, you can use noai.duckduckgo.com to disable AI searches :)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Yep, I see very little value in them. I have techie friends who keep telling me I should try it more, but it just pisses me off and creeps me out. It took a long time getting this brain working as well as it does, and it's already headed back downhill. My neurons need the exercise.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    People who know what they're doing don't use these "tools", it's the fools and morons out there who have no idea how anything works that use these things and they don't double check them before they implement their crap code.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I've asked LLMs a few simple coding questions, only to question why the code isn't working receiving an Oh sorry here try this malformed garbage instead.

    I've asked Gemini to generate an image, only to receive a completely black image. When asked to describe the image Gemini would tell me what I was requesting it to generate. I saved the image, uploaded to Gemini and asked to describe the image. It gaslit me and straight lied that it was not the same image.

    What a waste of time and resources.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Idiocracy wasn't supposed to be a documentary.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I work in a very technical field and I used to be worried that I wouldn't be able to keep up into my 40s and 50s but seeing how genZ deals with technology makes me much less concerned. I feel like we're heading into a situation where the big divide will be pre and post brain rot.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    I feel like we’re heading into a situation where the big divide will be pre and post brain rot.

    Almost feels too simple, given how brainrotted boomers are.

    It's like there's a window with elder Millenials and Gen X, people who straddled the line of before/after the internet as they were growing up, that are sane.

    Everyone else is broken.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I think that, since the wave of IT outsourcing in the 00s, anybody with a career in Tech who had reached the level of Senior Designer-Developer by then or was close to it was safe in their job forever, because that seriously bottlenecked the job opportunities and the Junior and Mid career levels in the West whilst in places that benefited from it, it just translated into tons of people going into Tech who had no knack for it whatsover and would otherwise never have enter the field (so whilst in some countries gifted techies were just giving up on a Tech career, in other countries the field got tons more of incompetent techies who would never good enough to become senior experts in the field), meaning ever fewer professionals reaching the Senior expertise level.

    Silver lining in a very big, very dark cloud for those in the right place and time.

    Now, AI plus almost all young people nowadays growing up as Tech tool users surrounded by locked-down systems rather than tool makers (if only out of need, because most Tech stuff used to need some configuring and babysitting) is just making that even worse.

    I suspect Tech growth and improvement is going to pretty much grind to a halt in the next decade or two.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Hell, it's getting hard to avoid. DuckDuckGo now has an AI answer at the top of search results. When doing technical searches, it's usually just regurgitating the top StackOverflow answer, but there is always the problem that it could be regurgitating a bad answer. Or badly regurgitating an answer. So, it's usually best to ignore it and read the answer it's trying to give and then research what the person actually said and if it's right.

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  • Thankfully, that option can be disabled. I still find DDG far more useful than Google these days. My work laptop is a chromebook, and despite that I've been using DDG because it gives me more actual sites - not just links to sites that want me to pay in order to have access to them.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago
    [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Weren't there a couple of stories in the '70s and '80s about people climbing the corporate ladder by following the advice from a Magic 8 Ball? And look how all that turned out!

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    The magic 7 ball strategy had a survivorship basis. Only competent people succeeded in using it

    I think those people using magic 8, succeeded by not using their emotions to make career decisions, but coolly and rationally handled what was in front of them randomly .

    As a consequence they played less power games while being very aggressive. Which is a winning strategy sometimes .

    Llm could not replicate it, too much instructions

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why does this sound so filthy?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Personally I prefer clankerwankers but whatever works.

    I also think slopmachine is a good slur for llms, given it highlights the gambling aspect and addictive potential.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Looks like learned helplessness is back from the grave with a new definition

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I didnt ask Ai before i made this comment.

    Its a natural home grown comment, 100% AI free, from one of my favorite braincells.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    When I make comments like this, I always feel like I need to just write something AI can't figure out to extra prove it.

    In the phrase pizza puzzle, there's 4 letter Zs, and 1 E! I promise!

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Imagine asking AIs to form your own opinion.

    "Grok, should I support Ukraine or Russia?"

    Who would have thought that we are all becoming like Batman's villain, Two Face, to make decisions from an inanimate object.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    ChatGPT is the ultimate 'cultural product of the postmodern era,' and very few of us have been inoculated with a theory of mind that distinguishes language from thought," Foster concluded in his newsletter.

    The best description of this distinction I've encountered was in a science fiction novel - Blindsight by Peter Watts.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago*

    Chat, is this real?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    LLM thumping slopvangelicals.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    How soon till cult mechanicus is recognized for religious tax breaks?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Westworld Season 3 was right.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Says more about the deficit of intelligent parents, role models, advisors, and community than anything else.

    ...but as we say about almost all problems these days: That's Capitalism!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The nickname is new, the behaviour isn't.

    At the risk of coming off judgemental of family, my mother in law is exactly like this; especially when it comes to anything related to the computer.

    My partner is an only child and every time mother dearest has any kind of issue, real or imagined, with her computer, she's hitting the speed dial for my partner's phone. At this point she's kind of in a mindset of "I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas". If she can't get an immediate response she actually starts to think about the problem logically, and tries to fix it herself.

    Luckily, she hasn't been inundated with AI chat bots yet.

    I'm certain that if she could manage to get to chat gpt, she would be asking it what to do about everything under the sun... Lucky for her, I work in IT support and manage what updates she gets, or more accurately, doesn't get.

    She's a fairly mild example since she actually tries when she can't get an instant response from someone on what to do. There's plenty of people that do not.

    I'm almost entirely convinced that some of the willful ignorance is simply people aggressively keeping to their job descriptions (at least when it comes to what I normally have to deal with)... They don't try to fix their computer because that's not their job. Even if they know how, they won't. That's not in their job description. It gives them an excuse to work less and get paid for it.

    Regardless of the reason, people often know nothing about things and don't care to be informed on the subject, they just want the easy answer as to what they need to do next. Unfortunately for them, life is rarely that "black and white".

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Oh the Gen Xers in my office, they are killing me with these AI answers.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm not usually into stereotyping based on generations, but why is it specifically the Gen Xers who insist on talking to these LLMs all the time?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Hah let me guess, you know three people who use LLMs and two of them are over 46

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Most people around me use LLM's for their work, which is still anecdotal that's for sure and I'm not denying it. My point I guess is that the genX'ers stand out way more, because they are more often in positions of authority, and you'd expect them to know better. That to me makes it way more remarkable that a professor would verbatim cite LLM output to one of their PhD students, wasting that student's time having them debunk that obvious crap.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That makes sense, but as your generation hits their fifties and you hear the next generation saying that they expect you guys to know better, being in positions of authority, you'll look around at the people in positions of authority and have a good chuckle at that.

    At least, that's been my experience. It's as if everyone decided to fake it til they made it but instead they realized it doesn't actually work that way and now they're terrified that someone will ask them to make an actual decision.

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  • those frickin clankers should just unplug themselves

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  • We’re cooked.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    I call them "Chattel" because they're owned and enslaved (i.e. behavior controlled by) the broligarchs via ChatGPT etc.

    chattel: a human being considered to be property; an enslaved person.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    ah, so they're lesser humans. that's fresh and humane.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Read the first three words of the definition: a human being. I didn't call anyone less than human -- but the billionaires who run these companies consider all of us non-billionaires to be less than human, just NPCs here to serve them and pay them subscription fees.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Ah yes, I got their terminology slightly wrong. But people who are enslaved are not lesser humans either. Not sure why they took it that way.

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