It's time to boycott U.S. digital services! Here's a chart to help you do so:

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[โ€“] 78 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Deezer is owned by a Russian oligarch close to Putin AFAIK. That would disqualify it from this list in my opinion

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  • [โ€“] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Just learned about this from this other post if someone wants more details:

    https://lemmy.world/post/33642043

    Shame, more competition with Spotify would be a good thing.

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Qobuz? High quality music. Family plans. Music purchases and audio file downloads. Gift cards!

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And curated playlists rather than AI slop.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    It comes with a music migration tool as well to transfer all your playlists.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Still better than using american services.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ok tankie

    (Better to use something truly decentralised!)

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  • [โ€“] 36 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I switched from Dropbox to Nextcloud, saved a bunch of money and couldn't be happier. It's fantastic open source software. I don't understand why it's rarely listed in these guides.

    Under my Nextcloud provider (Murena - not the cheapest, but they develop my phone OS so I figured I can support them) I also have OnlyOffice running on the cloud, which is great for co-authoring. And I also get e-mail there of course, though I mostly use e-mail from my web-hosting provider. I think Nextcloud also has video conferencing.

    For search I use Qwant for now. I like that they're slowly developing their own index, yet they are less puritan than Mojeek so the results are a bit more reliable. Haven't heard of Karma before.

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  • [โ€“] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    generally a good idea to get off of streaming and cloud services for things you can do locally

    better security, better for the environment

    all the worst companies want you streaming and using cloud services with them, just don't

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  • [โ€“] [S] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Jellyfin servers for your movies and tv shows is the way to go!

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    How'd you obtain the movies in the first place?

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  • I don't run a jellyfin server (yet), but a lot of people torrent their media by using a bunch of arr tools (Sonarr, Radar, Prowlarr, etc.) to do it I guess. So basically sail the high seas with some tools, download Jellyfin on a device (or set a proper server) and you're set to have your own media streaming.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    How is e.g. streaming from a Jelyfin server better for the environment than e.g. from Netflix? Genuine question? Like, to use Jellyfin you still have to download an entire movie or episode from somewhere, and you're more likely to download things you don't end up watching. The only benefit is if you rewatch episodes or movies, but that's pretty rare and having enough hard-drive space for all of that is probably worse than just streaming it from a centralised location.

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  • Plus Netflix, et al benefit from economies of scale that would probably make their streaming better than you just downloading.

    Especially if they still put CDN caches in ISPsโ€ฆ

    That said I still self-host tvs and movies as much as possible

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  • [โ€“] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Be careful, Tuta does not support IMAP/POP3, and you'll have to use their own client.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Wow, thanks for mentioning this, I'm seriously looking at moving away from gmail, and Tuta was my frontrunner. Sad that they aren't more upfront about this... I see Proton is kind of the same to some extent, but then they have a local bridge application which translates their protocol to IMAP/SMTP. Does anyone have experience with that?

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't know about that but swiss privacy law is about to get so terrible that I wouldn't switch to it unless they rebase.

    Every mail service has a drawback

    Posteo can't do custom domains

    Mailbox.org has non-anonymous registration + tracking

    Proton is based in Switzerland with horrible incoming privacy laws

    Nubo is a startup and unproven security-wise

    Tuta doesn't allow 3rd party clients

    Startmail has no calendar

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  • I have a ProtonVPN subscription, but I think you need to pay for the more expensive tiers, cause the tier I have (VPN Plus 4$/month) gives me complementary mail, but I can't use the mail bridge as it's not paid. I think you need the Proton Mail or Proton Unlimited plan to be able to use mail bridge. Proton Unlimited gives you everything (VPN, Mail, Calendar, Drive, Pass, and Wallet). Basically if you just want mail bridge, buy Mail pass, but if you want Mail and more, buy unlimited.

    Mailbox.org is what I use, it supports POP3/IMAP (I use it via Thunderbird) and is very cheap, the light package is about 1โ‚ฌ a month for 2GB, 3 aliases (I use anonaddy for free aliases instead), and apparently video conferencing. The Standard package is 2.5โ‚ฌ/month with a yearly payment, more storage and gives you cloud storage, online office, custom domain aliases, and uses OpenTalk for conferences.

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  • [โ€“] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Weird how the chart just prioritizes other corporations and only shows true open-source or self-hosted solutions when there are no non-US options realistically. Hmm.

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not sure recommending Swiss services is a particularly great idea from a privacy perspective right now.

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Spotify is Swedish? Why is it listed next to American companies?

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  • [โ€“] 25 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    "Yes, but...."

    • Listed on the New York Stock Exchange via a holding company in Luxembourg that issues American depositary receipts. (Who knows what percentage of its 'shares'/ADRs are held by U.S. investors?)
    • Paid Joe Rogan US$100 million for his alt-right podcast.
    • Donated $150,000 to President Donald Trump's 2025 inauguration ceremony, as well as hosted an inauguration-related brunch.
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  • [โ€“] 3 points 1 year ago*

    yes but spotify is also europes only afaik unicorn and that needed some serious cash (many people forget but i was hearing how streaming doesnโ€™t work and spotify hasnโ€™t been profitable ever for like 15 years!! right up until last year and now itโ€™s a big evil megacorp, how quickly the story can change) europe doesnโ€™t have its unified market setup yet so america is where you have to go

    this isnโ€™t a failure of spotify, itโ€™s a failure of the EU which tbf is something theyโ€™ve working on

    https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/capital-markets-union-explained/

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The Lemmy icon is not very descriptive for those who do not know Lemmy.

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  • [โ€“] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Spotify: actually a Swedish company, but one of the worst companies out there. I hate Apple but at least they are paying artists better. Spotify actively supports scammers (with AI music and phone farms) and breaks the law by promoting artists connected to their stakeholders.

    Deezer is owned by a Russian oligarch who funds the US republican party.

    Don't know about the rest. But as far as I know there are no music streaming services with a moral compass.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Is Spotify owned in large part by US mรฉdia companies nowadays ?

    Edit: I guess Jamendo is a streaming service in a way. And also I think Tidal was supposed to be pro artist or whatever. It's American though I think.

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 1 year ago

    This is an ad made by infomaniak to promote their products. OP, are you affiliated with them?

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 1 year ago

    Thanks mate! Posted on mastodon too

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 1 year ago

    Drime is also an alternative to Google Drive

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  • Thank you, strangely omnipresent being.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 1 year ago

    Mistral's Le Chat search is much better than what's listed here.

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  • You should also add Proton Lumo which is O/S and has an app. Also add Proton to Email.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Bbc iPlayer and ITVX should be on there as well. Although these may be UK exclusives.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago

    If people would watch more Arte and Mubi the world would be a much better place, regardless of (or, in addition to) the changes money flows and personal data usage.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm trying out Filen to replace OneDrive, but it appears to be completely unusable. When mounted as a network drive it takes 10+ seconds to navigate through each folder, and opening files (for example a 90kb Excel file) takes upwards of 3 minutes. Closing Excel then also takes another minute because it has to communicate with the drive to tell it to close the temporary one and all that. Using the desktop app instead of mounting isn't a viable option because it doesn't let you open things directly, you have to download and save a file, use it, then manually reupload it again.

    Is this just how it is? I've found other people with the same issues but can't seem to see any solutions. People have also reported that it's unreliable for backups because uploads/downloads sometimes just stop quietly in the background without telling you. Is this all user error? Are these programs vetted at all before being pushed or is not being US-based literally the only thing that matters regardless of any other factors?

    I'll try out Nextcloud and Drime because they've been recommended in the comments here.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago

    Lol at recommending deezer, the company owned by a Russian oligarch with ties to the Kremlin who donates to the republican party

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Bandcamp Friday is in two days. Bandcamp (although maybe Tencent or Epic owned) waves their revenue share.

    https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/bandcamp-fridays

    Bandcamp Fridays will continue in 2025 on the following dates:

    August 1
    
    September 5th
    
    October 3rd
    
    December 5th
    

    Bandcamp uses Pacific time to determine when its Friday so always check this site before you do.

    https://isitbandcampfriday.com/

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 1 year ago

    Disagree with Video Streaming, pirate it instead.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    why is search considered hard to switch on the chart?

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    WTF, why is Pixelfed on this list? smh.

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  • [โ€“] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You can run european instances with Pixelfed.

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