cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/33720279

Written by Steven Vaughan-Nichols, Senior Contributing Editor
July 23, 2025 at 11:31 a.m. PT

Recently, vibe coding bit Jason Lemkin, trusted advisor to SaaStr, the Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) business community, in the worst possible way. The vibe program, Replit, he said, went "rogue during a code freeze and shutdown and deleted our entire database."

In a word: Wow. Just wow.

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[–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How a careless, incompetent developer moved fast and broke things, specifically his company’s production database.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I keep seeing advertisements for this stupid app.

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I'll likely be spending $8,000 a month

    You can hire an actual programmer for that kind of money. Someone with years of experience who knows what they are doing.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You can hire a couple for that money.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Good software engineers should make a lot more than 48k

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Last time I was in Arizona I saw signs for McDonald’s hiring starting at $20/hour. You think an experienced software engineer should be making essentially the same wage as a McDonald’s worker?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Consdering I did twenty years as a developer and SEO, and also spent my time before that flipping a few burgers. I can say they damn sure work harder than developers.

    Also. You sure youre better than them? I mean, you have the right to say they aren't worth it?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    As someone who has also done both, flipping burgers should obviously be paid less than engineers lol it’s hilarious you’d think otherwise.

    Nice job putting words in my mouth at the end. Imagine thinking the amount you are paid makes you better. Holy shit dude.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I didnt t say that. I said they work harder

    And now.. Well. A. I builds most if it. You guys just clean it up.

    Not like when we ran BBS systems even in the 80s. Not much realy going on other than api calls, maybe some data normalization here and there.

    Oh you do have to put up wuth FAR more drama and B. S.

    Now physically you don't work harder. Like at all. Let's not lie. We both know that. You do work harder mentally. In both cases the work is needed, and is important to the customer.

    The fact that you class one form of work over another as worth more is ridiculous. And classist. More like you see a cast syttem and i see people.

    If you want to really go that route garbage men should make three times what a developer does. Compared to them we developers and SEOS are useless.

    So. Go feel superior somewhere else. I dont have any time for arrogant kids looking down on others.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    At no point did I say, or even hint that making more money means you are a better person, or worth more. By asking me if I think I am better than McDonald’s workers, you are saying that self worth is tied to wage. So yes you did say that.

    How much someone is paid is based on how much money they generate, and how much responsibility/stress the job has. There aren’t many jobs with less responsibilities and stress as McDonalds workers. You aren’t up all night hoping that that buns don’t spoil overnight.

    If you want to live in a fantasy world where how much someone is paid is based solely on how hard they work, then that’s fine. But we are talking about the real world here.

    I really don’t understand the hostility, calling me an arrogant kid. Is this how you respond to everyone that had a different opinion than you?

    You seem to have a very broken view of work and self worth. At no point in any of my responses have I alluded that making more money had anything to do with being superior, better, worth more. Yet you keep saying how superior I must feel. You must realize this is 100% your projection.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    I guess AI does create coding jobs. In a roundabout way.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The funny part is that Replit has billboard ads along the 101 in Silicon Valley that say "vibe code, safely"

    I didn't realise repl.it has pivoted to vibe coding. It used to be similar to CodeSandbox or jsfiddle - a sandbox for writing and running code.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A lot of have pivoted. When I attend conferences, most of the vendor sponsors are basically “this same product that provides this common service, but with AI integration”.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    And probably 90% of them are just building on top of OpenAI's API rather than having their own model, and OpenAI still don't know how to become profitable. It feels like the dot com bubble all over again.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I love this for them

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    shutdown

    Hey SJVN! When you see someone making an obvious spelling mistake, you use [sic] to show you're leaving the mistake as-is.

    Thanks!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    there's no spelling mistake here. whether or not you agree it can be a verb (probably not), "shutdown" definitely can be a noun. it's not that AI shut it down, it's that this happened during the shutdown

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Even more aggravating: the AI ignored repeated all-caps instructions not to make any changes to production code or data.

    Lol.

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  • While I've been soundly on the "AI is a waste of time for anything that needs to be correct" train since day one, I am having a hard time believing this story.

    Granted, I am not a professional programmer. So maybe there is a reason that this project database isn't being backed up? Much less... how did the AI get access?

    This sounds like creative fiction.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Vibe-wrecking.

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