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[–] 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have no idea why when it comes to cars, the phrase "Road Rage" is used instead of attempted murder.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    It's a real phenomenon when talking about incidents involving two vehicles because you unconsciously dehumanize the person in the vehicle since you're not directly engaging with them, but their machine, and can't really see the person in it.

    Same principle applies on the internet where people aren't seeing a person when they are verbally abusing someone online, which makes it much easier to ignore the empathic part of our brain. At least that's what I heard on the radio.

    That being said, this one involves a cyclist so I'd just call it attempted murder too.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    I can't wait until that driver is found. May justice be served and this person destroyed for attempted murder. Never let them free.

    WTH is wrong with some humans.

    I'm so glad the cyclist survived. 💜

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    iS ThE CaR oK?! Red two door vehicle possibly a dodge challenger...wow really putting in the effort to help get them caught it is a challenger I'm from Europe and even I can tell that. Also the plate is there maybe get the actual footage and not use some rando potato upload. This was attempted murder and so tired of seeing the dehumanisation of cyclists. Even here if you want to kill someone do it in a car.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I still feel guilty for bumping a taxi/van making a right turn looking left after I thought they made the turn. Nothing came of it after we exchanged info. I never would do it on purpose though. Why did they do it on purpose?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    I felt like shit for bumping a guy's car at 5kmh because it snowed (not common here, so I was on summer tires) and I slipped while braking. He must have noticed it in my face because he cheered me up when he saw that the bumper didn't even have a mark

    Can't believe some people would run into a cyclist head on on purpose and live with themselves after, dude's gotta have some anti social disorder

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    When the light turned green, and the red car didn't move, Lori said her son tapped the bumper to get the driver's attention. The driver didn't like that.

    All things else aside; That is an excellent way to start a road rage incident. It's not a wise decision to hit someone's car to get their attention. Here in the US, from grade-school on, we're taught to protect possessions with deadly force.

    .satire

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    It's not a wise decision to hit someone's car to get their attention.

    I assume he was on a bicycle in the earlier incident as well, not in a car.

    With a car, sure. You tap your horn. You don't bump the car that is oblivious to the light change.

    But the guy probably doesn't have a horn on his bike, isn't required to have one, and tapping the bumper with your hand is not going to hurt the car in question.

    There are things that bicyclists do that very much annoy me, like blowing through red lights, riding the wrong way on the road, and riding with no lights at night. Tapping my bumper isn't one.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Tapping a bumper made someone tried to murder you? Nah dude, something is seriously fucking unhinged with many Americans and it needs to be called out way more. So many are so eager and trigger happy after one small interaction. Why is it ok to go insane after someone taps your car?

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    [–] 83 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Yea, this is definitely attempted murder by a road-raging loon but, a terrorist attack, this is not.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It isn't.

    The intent matters - terrorism is to use terror from the act to influence decisionmaking of other people not involved in the accident directly (to send a message with your actions/war/policy/attacks/extreme-passive-aggressiveness/etc).

    What St Luigi did also wasn't terrorism, but the wealthy group that somehow identifies themselves as the same scumbags as that healthcare CEO are a bunch of entitled delicate flowers that want to stay where they are & they indeed have the power to send a terrorist message back with what's happening to Luigi.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I dont know...

    Non-state attacker; politically motivated; intent to spread fear...

    Seems to tick a few boxes.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    “She said that the driver of the red car stopped to flirt with a woman who was waiting at the light. When the light turned green, and the red car didn't move, Lori said her son tapped the bumper to get the driver's attention. The driver didn't like that.”

    How is that politically motivated?

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago

    This definitely isn't a terrorist attack.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I feel like driving a car makes you legit insane. My parents are the sweetest people, but when driving they become crazy and screams at every stopped car.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's because driving a car is the most dangerous thing a regular person is doing on a daily basis. Behind the wheel you are just one wrong motion away from killing yourself and others. All while risking your single most valueable mobile possession.

    Even if you compartmentalize that away and try to ignore it, it is a still a constant stressor.

    That makes people get angry.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's because for many people, driving a car comes with a certain entitlement. And why wouldn't it? Especially in the US, where drivers are fully accommodated to with infrastructure, crazy roads and all kinds of drive through stuff?

    It's even noticeable here in the Netherlands. Lots of people I know that are very kind, mellow people turn into insane road ragers the moment they get into their car.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Your logic would imply that bicycle riders would have the same thing happen (in the Netherlands). I didn’t see that when I was there, but I don’t live there. But I guarantee it’s not because car drivers “are fully accommodated with” whatever. It’s because there’s no communication between cars. Everyone is in their own box. That’s not the same with bikes or motorcycles or mopeds etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'd say you see the same thing with bikes, especially in the big cities. They cycle everywhere and go through red lights all the time. However, a bike is a lot less dangerous than a car (unless it's an electric bike that can go very fast), which makes it slightly less of an issue in my eyes.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Had that been an SUV, the dude would have been smoked.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    So, anyone with a car is a terrorist now?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Same as anyone on a plane with or without a box cutter. Intent is what matters. A car is a deadly weapon just like a gun. This post depicts someone pulling that trigger.

    Even when a person unintentionally discharges a firearm that causes harm, they are still accountable. Culturally this must be how driving is held to account. In court, this is absolutely the case, but ignorant cultural norms lag very far behind.

    I was physically disabled by an incompetent driver that broke my neck and back while commuting to work by bicycle. I was a top level amateur racer. I am not dishing out hypothetical nonsense or prejudice. Auto insurance doesn't even scratch the surface of the liability one will face in court for injuring a pedestrian or pedestrian-cyclist on the road. Any remotely skilled attorney will start the case in the 7-8 figure range regardless of your present net worth. If this driver is caught, the cyclist will own them, like driving their car, living in their house, and inheriting their parent's fortune. I would absolutely force an auction at my expense to sell the shirt off my assailant's back after something like this to watch them walk into homelessness naked. Pull that trigger and I am coming with no mercy and taking everything.

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    I guess all people who live in rural places should just get fucked then 🤷 My parents live in the countryside, and despite one of my parents engaging actively in local politics and campaigning to get better public transportation connections, nothing has changed, so getting out of the village is severly limited without a car.

    Add emergency situations to that—like the few times they needed an ambulance, but were told to piss off—and they can literally get fucked and die. But sure, everyone who has a car is a terrorist.

    I live in the city and commute on my bike and use public transit. Hospital, grocery store and other amenities are also in a walking distance. Not everyone is lucky to be in the same position, though.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I was meaning it in a much more lighthearted manner my dude.

    My parents and grandparents are in the same position as yours, but you have to see the other side of this coin too. My grandpa was almost blind(had surgery is better now) and 80+. He has to drive because there is no other form of transportation. I love him with all my heart but this is not safe he knows it, we know it, but there is just no other option. This is what the "we need cars for remote villages" argument leads to.

    About the ambulance argument, this is just fucked and I hope illegal in most places. And cars will do absolutely nothing to help there. If you are having a medical emergency the last thing you should be doing is drive yourself to the hospital.

    Being in a place with half decent public transport should not be a privilege, but a right and we should treat it as infringement of that right to not have public transport.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    We have enough money to connect all rural places with transport preferable (easier & more comfortable, timely) to cars.

    As well as enough money to always get picked up by ambulances in case of any emergency.

    We just chose not to invest in that & instead invest in stuff that makes wealth concentration easier - and basic infrastructure costlier (like healthcare).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm just tired of seeing the extremes, including the "people who drive cars are evil" stances. When in reality we're all getting fucked by uneducated assholes, rich car lobbyists and corrupted gov'ts who push against good public transportation—among many other things for public good.

    Re: emergency. They didn't drive themselves, but one parent drove the other one. My grandma once had to take a taxi because the ambulance wouldn't come. Yeah, things are fucked in my home country. Many of the reasons I emigrated and why I don't plan on going back.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I do agree that the people that need cars now just have no other choice, but we must keep that into perspective. What I am trying to say it that the "no cars" viewpoint looks extremist only from our current angel.

    Compare it to gun culture in the US. If you propose removing all guns people there will go crazy, but at the same time the people having guns where I live(Eastern Europe) are seen as a but strange and maybe a bit dangerous.

    About the emergency I hate it is that way, I hope it gets better because that works only until both your parents can drive and that will not always be the case as you can see in my example.

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    [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Cars make people lose 20 IQ points the minute they step inside.

    My theory is that cars, being uniquely private spaces moving on public roads, become bubbles of highly territorial spaces that people feel compelled to defend in what they perceived to be a "not-theirs", adversarial environment. And when people feel the need to defend their own shit, they become aggressive.

    That's one of the minor reasons why I quit driving: even I, an utterly placid man who really, REALLY doesn't care about his car all that much, feel slightly more agitated and more on the defensive when I hit the road. I don't like the feeling of becoming more aggressive and stupid.

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