Click here if you don't get it.I told it to power off. It rebooted to do updates. Once these updates were done, it powered off. Kinda like Windows. πŸ˜‚

Photo of a laptop running Debian 12, showing software updates on the boot screen.

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[–] 72 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

Just a heads up, if you're on the 7040 mainboard, I needed to add this to the kernel command line on Debian 13 for reliable suspend/resume. Without it, the screen would just be grey sometimes and not resume

amdgpu.dcdebugmask=0x10

Edit: may also only affect the 2.8k display

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Thanks! Unfortunately I'm on OG i5 with CMOS battery solder mod and all. 🫠

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I've never had a Windows laptop suspend correctly, so...

    I guess it's the year of the macOS desktop?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have been soloing Linux for 5 years now.

    But tbh, I have had almost no issues regarding suspend/hibernate on Windows. On Linux, on the other hand... For starters, hibernate never worked for me.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    That's why I was saying macOS is really the only option if your definition of "year of" is suspend/resume reliability. It highly depends on the hardware for Linux/Windows

    The last two Windows laptops I've used (last 5 years), one wouldn't suspend correctly (in suspend, it wouldn't fully suspend and drained >5% battery/hour) and the other, on resume, couldn't play audio without restarting

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I have many older yet quite serviceable Macs (2015 or so) that I’ve been partitioning and trying out different distrosβ€”so far no issues whatsoever. I know I can get past Monterey (last OS version officially supported by Apple on these) using OpenCore but I really don’t like any of the MacOS versions past Monterey

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Or in this case, the year of the Linux desktop after a couple of years πŸ˜‰

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    ALL MY HOMIES HATE UNATTENDED UPGRADES

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    what desktop is that? fedora kde has separate options for shutdown and shutdown-and-update, same for reboot. I think it's a native plasma 6 feature, integrates with packagekit and systemd's special boot mode.

    untattended updates are good. except of course if you want to gatekeep hard, but let's pretend you do not. if the pros can easily turn it off there's absolutely no problems with it. and we can. but for real desktop systems, it needs to be on by default.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Not OP, but I bought one at the beginning of the year (with the same bezel color as OP, in fact) and I love it. I was originally worried that the keyboard felt cheap, but once the keys wore slightly (took about a week) it felt beautiful. Being able to move the I/O around has been amazing. I do somewhat wish I'd gotten the 16 with a GPU instead of the 13, but if I'm honest with myself, I didn't really need it (and still don't). Six months in, it seems like it's holding up very well.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago*

    It's pretty good. Replaces a few things already. Some broken, some defective. The system works. The only real issue I had was the CMOS battery would drain if the laptop stayed unused for a while. Framework developed a battery replacement module they shipped to people able to solder. πŸ˜„ I have the first version. They fixed a few problems in the second, including the battery issue.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Framework ❀️

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    this is why I use Arch.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Except windows doesn't ever actually shut down after the reboot if you tell it to "update and shut down" lmao

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I think that's because of systemd.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Is that what we're going to do today, Kitty? We're going to fight?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Not here to fight (though this feels like a quote from somewhere). It's just how systemd handles things. Probably it's not the only reason for this, but I haven't seen this behaviour on systems with OpenRC.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Looks like a sitcom. Could you find a non age-restricted version perhaps? I cannot view this on Youtube or on Freetube. yt-dlp cannot download it either.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Update yt-dlp maybe? Yt works just fine. Haven't tried freetube. It's just a bit from "That 70s Show"

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's the latest version. The video is age-restricted for me and I don't have an account.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's weird, I don't run into any age restrictions

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Debian getting an update? What wizardry is this? Oh wait it still has a 9 year old version of sqlite.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know you're joking but the fact that 2022 was 6 years ago is crazy to me. It don't feel like that at all

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    And that's for bookworm, which was released in June 2023.

    Trixie currently has, and will likely have, sqlite3 3.46.1, which was released 2024-08-13.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah, and I use trixie myself, but I think that it's reasonable to use Debian stable rather than Debian testing in response, because for Debian, "release" is when it enters stable.

    It is true that trixie is expected to become new stable within about two weeks, so we're right on the verge of a new release, but it still isn't out the door.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It's what pisses me off the most using Debian.

    Set a active directory server with samba on Debian and one day windows 11 machines couldn't login anymore.

    After hours of troubleshooting:

    ah yes this samba issue was fixed 3 years ago but you didn't get it because you're "stable"

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  • Honestly I have patched a few debian packages manually before. Sqlite in particular - I needed a new trigger feature so I built the damn thing from scratch and installed it.

    I think doing that probably caused some debian dev to literally die.

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