Are you dumb, or are you just anxious and sheltered? Your sentence about grad school makes me think it's the latter. There are a lot of people like you in the world of academia.
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You're not giving us a whole lot to work with here. What specific behaviors do you exhibit that you don't like and what kind of challenges are giving you problems in particular?
You say that looking for a job sounded insurmountable. What part of the process seemed most daunting to you and why?
You are not a piece of paper with a list of scores. It’s not as simple as I am good at # therefore should do ABC.
You are a human with 100000s of aspects that make you amazing. So you’re not a rocket scientist, you might not be Brad Pitt either, but you need to get up each day and say hey I’m alive and I’m actually fantastic.
Good luck. Keep smiling, step away from the dumb LLM. Pick up a book, grow a flower, cook the best cheese toastie.
Smart people know how little they actually know.
It's the ultimate state of every expert:
Philosophers are people who know less and less about more and more, until they know nothing about everything. Scientists are people who know more and more about less and less, until they know everything about nothing.
Iirc, Descartes' famous "cogito ergo sum" was the result of him realizing that nothing he knew carried a guarantee of truth, so discarding everything he had learnt throughout his life he set out to discover something universally true. And his famous quote was among the first such truths.
I ended up in grad school trying to get a doctorate, as I was so stupid that looking for a job sounded insurmountable. [...] Wonder if any of academia would even be left. Imagine my stupidity of not thinking ahead here.
I don't think you're dumb at all, you'd have to jump some serious hurdles to get into a doctoral program[1].
I would suggest you seem to lack confidence though. That's relatively easy to fix. A timely comment I came across on Hacker News today seems pertinent. One quote in particular sticks out, which I myself have experienced:
my life got immeasurably better when I stopped trying to prove myself to everyone.
LLMs are stochastic parrots, they can really only repeat previously acquired human knowledge and apply it in rudimentary ways. True outside-the-box thinkers will always be required. An LLM is, and always will be a tool.
So anyway, how do I cure my dumbness and actually function as a normal person?
The want and willingness to learn, and the right attitude or mindset: relentless curiosity. If you have a passion, follow it. Don't get into a field just because there's huge dollar signs at the end of it.
If it weren't for curiosity in understanding how something worked by tearing it apart, seeing its insides, then putting it back together, I wouldn't have the foggiest of clues how to build and fix computers today. Despite my academic qualifications[1] and long career in an unrelated field I'm opting to do some basic trade skills training in Electronics, because it helps satisfy my relentless curiosity, and because it might be useful one day.
Skills and learning things don't necessarily have to be academic. There are people infinitely smarter than me in their own fields who don't have any academic qualifications at all. Intelligence is relative to the field it is being applied to.
As for finding friends, if you have a hobby find a local club or maker-space or something like that and go along. Interact with people but don't go with the singular explicit goal of 'making friends'. Friendship will flourish as you get to know people naturally through a shared hobby or cause.
[1] for what its worth, I hold two distinct bachelors degrees (not a combined double degree) and am currently studying a masters degree.
Get a library card. Find something you are interested in, and ask the librarian if they have any books. Read. Read more. Not AI generated shit, or crowdsourced noise. Read things that people took the time into words and get printed.
Then read some more.
One game-changing fact I learned is: "When you're reading for fun, you don't have to read an entire book from beginning to end."
You can just go to a library, pick up a book and flip through it to see if there's anything interesting, and if not just move on to another book. If you find something interesting you can start reading until it's not interesting any more, then move on to the next book. Whatever you want.
If you honestly think you’re dumb, get a full psychological evaluation (note: NOT a psychiatric evaluation—that’s something else entirely). This is an extensive series of yeasts that should take around 8 hours (often split over two days). That should settle the matter for you.
However, if you made it into a Ph.D. program, you almost certainly aren’t “dumb” in the sense that you have a below average IQ. While it is true that most of academic success is actually based on work (e.g. studying), IQ does place a limit on its ceiling.
I would suggest getting into therapy and only accepting therapists you deem to be smarter than yourself. Intelligence isn’t the most important characteristic in a therapist, but it matters. A good therapist will be able to help you tease out objective evaluations of your own intellect from insecurity-biased ones. A therapist with a solid background in cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) is a plus in this case.
Be curious. Ask questions.
Critical: answer those questions from a reputable source. Not ai. Ask a librarian for a book that can answer it.
This. Curiosity is a hallmark of it intelligence. Reading sci fi and fantasy is also a good indicator of how imaginative you are. Find your interests and read about then we much as possible. After that find conventions or clubs that match your interests and eventually you'll find some good people to chat with.
I read some studies about intelligence in Africa and they found that the kids who weren't smart enough to do all the complex practical work (like tying and repairing nets) were the ones that parents sent to school, where at least they'd be out of the way.
Maybe that's what happened to you?
I mean I know there is grade inflation and issues with education but I kinda feel getting into a PhD program is going to put you at least one standard deviation above the norm on intellect. This seems very rediculous. Is it just to complain about the llm situation?
No, my stupidity issue predates LLMs, it just came to my mind first. Sorry that I am not good at describing my issue.
I believe intellect or being knowledgeable is only small corner of general intelligence and wisdom. My dumbness lies on the more general side.
Did you finish grad school? What was your thesis?
Remember that LLMs are designed by people with mathematics masters. So you’ve definitely got skills that could be desirable to employers. You also appear to be conflating difficulty navigating life with being stupid. More likely you have a specific vision for how you think you’re expected to live, and life isn’t working out that way. You’re describing classic (even stereotypical) autism spectrum issues. The good news is that these days there is a LOT of research into how to integrate people with intense focus but no people skills into society. You’re not only not alone, but there’s tons of resources out there to help — the trick is figuring out which you need and what’s available in your own area.
TL;DR: the issue is most likely not your capabilities but your expectations; if you can afford to, try lots of things and don’t worry so much about failure. Everyone fails; it’s how we learn. Just don’t keep trying to succeed at a path that brings failure and misery; try new things until some click.
Then again, I spent 10 years in the trenches being underpaid after graduation before I had enough experience to get a job doing the stuff I loved and was good at. And I spent a year between learning all the ways not to apply for a job. That’s part of growth, not a dead end dumb activity.
Read books.
Look around your house. Do you know how that thing works? Do you know how it was made? Do you know how it was invented? Do you know why someone wanted to make it? Research those things. Learn about it until you can explain it to someone else.
First change your mind, becomes optimistic to maximize your resources, opportunities and mind.
Diet, lifestyle, sleep, social can all have huge impacts on your mind.
Start with good uninterrupted sleep, no sugar, no alcohol.. see if you notice improvements, keep a daily mood journal for tracking
I don't have an answer to your question. I just wanted to say that everyone is part dumb, so you're not alone. There's all sorts of smarts and all sorts of stupid, and everyone has some of each. Don't know if that's any comfort to you to look at it that way, but it helps me feel better about it.
Watch educational documentaries of high quality to try to identify topics that interest you and then look for books on those topics to go deep.
But also, I'm just gonna level with you. Life is pretty hard. It sucks a lot of the time. But it's also awesome at other times. I just want to remind you that it though you're feeling bad about it right now, it won't always be this way. You won't always feel this way. Hope you feel better soon.
Bruh you are underestimating yourself.
Most people don't even know what academic papers or a doctorate are. So I immediately think you are way above average in intelligence and employability.
To make friends you just have to socialize more. Practice makes perfect.
how do I cure my dumbness and actually function as a normal person?
Make mistakes. Learn from them. Big ones, small ones, it doesn’t matter in the slightest. What matters is that you learn.
Eating Reading a book is generally a good start.
For a more specific solution, we need more info on your dumbidity. Presuming that you are right, what convinced you that you're dumb? And what type of dumb? Any chance you're smart but just very unwise?
Go to therapy and work with someone who helps you find you. It's not all depression, grief, or anger issues. You can go and talk.
highkey same, I feel so dumb dumb stupid boy all the time
I feel way dumber now than 8 years ago, I wonder if long covid just thanos snapped the good parts of my brain
how do I cure my dumbness and actually function as a normal person?
Reevaluate your base line.
Most "normal people" have issues you probably never even thought about because you just solve them. Their struggles and their life are defined by things you probably will find boring or trivial.
Besides, LLMs are supposed to be useful.
which manufactures papers faster than we can even follow.
Does that sound useful to you? It doesn't to me. Find that difference between papers and application and somewhere in there will be your niche.
Try this book.
"Discover What You Are Best At" by Linda Gale.
It's a series of self tests you can finish in half a day, and then a list of jobs that use your particular skill set.
I never had a job I liked until I saw what the book suggested for me.
This quote is attributed to Einstein, but I think a lot of quotes falsely are.
Anyway, it goes, "If you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a ladder, it will go through life forever thinking it is dumb."
You are not dumb. I can tell by the fact that you use words like apocalypse, academia and correctly used the word too, instead of to. You have enough self introspection to realize you are dumb which as pointed out by someone else is a sign of intelligence. You got into grad school. There are other signs. My guess is you might work with people who are exceptional making you think you are dumb, not realizing that a large portion of the general population are waaaay dumber than you. Or your standards are just higher than most and failing to meet these elevated standards makes you feel dumb.
Or maybe you are just looking for compliments. In which, case...I really like those shoes.
The book 'How to Read' by Mortimer J. Adler is a good starting point. It also has book suggestions for various subjects you might be interested in. Do whatever you find most interesting, the rest will come as long as you try.
Don't forget to pace yourself so you don't burn out; Self-Care is very important to keep motivated and energized ❤️
I wish you well on your journey~

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