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[–] 57 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

IIRC, the last time something like this happened, they tried to smear the sentinel and it didn't work out very well for them.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    Love some details on who got yelled at.

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  • [–] 35 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery

    Two members of Donald Trump's campaign staff had a verbal and physical altercation Monday with an official at Arlington National Cemetery, where the former president participated in a wreath-laying ceremony, NPR has learned.

    A source with knowledge of the incident said the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried. The source said Arlington officials had made clear that only cemetery staff members would be authorized to take photographs or film in the area, known as Section 60.

    When the cemetery official tried to prevent Trump campaign staff from entering Section 60, campaign staff verbally abused and pushed the official aside, according to the source.

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    At a campaign event Wednesday, Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance dismissed the story, saying, "The altercation at Arlington Cemetery is the media creating a story where I really don't think that there is one." Vance went on to add that, "Apparently somebody at Arlington cemetery, some staff member, had a little disagreement with somebody, and they have turned, the media has turned this, into a national news story."

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    [–] 119 points 9 hours ago (21 children)

    Suck up.

    He would have rather you and your friends just obeyed the damn rules of the place, and is probably embarrassed you've made even more of a big deal about him just doing his honorable job. Because it isn't really about him, is it? It's about making you look better in light of what's coming for you.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 hours ago (16 children)

    I can only assume you thought I meant Hegseth and not that soldier. Which I did not.

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  • [+] -13 points 9 hours ago (15 children)

    No I mean the soldier. Why is his job more honourable than any other job?

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  • [–] 35 points 8 hours ago

    Because guarding the tomb is entirely symbolic, but it's taken very seriously, and maintaining high enough standards to put yourself out there for scrutiny like that is hard as hell. Put the discipline and dedication required on top of all that and it's very much a job worthy of respect, at least in my eyes

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  • [–] 25 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    You should look into that position on wiki, it probably would give far more than any comments here. It's very demanding, important symbolically, and it's a huge honor for anyone to say they served it. It's at the level of the King's Guard in London, if maybe you're more familiar with that.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

    Mass effect had it right

    “Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer.”

    It's all just a dog and pony show but there is still no reason to go there and be disrespectful.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child)

    Honor is for the living, not the dead.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago

    Arguable. Many honorable people are remembered throughout time. Some cultures believe you never really die until the last person forgets your name. If I had to die at the hands of an enemy, I'd rather him respect me than die crying and begging for my life.

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  • [+] -10 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

    don't worry if you don't get it; this is one of those things people (americans, mostly) get super upset about for some reason. Can't even say the robot gun dance is silly, for example.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

    When did honoring the dead and showing respect become an American thing?

    Just can't help yourself can you.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (3 children)

    the robot dance is silly though, admit it.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    Out of curiosity, would you say the same about ceremony in any other instance (e.g. religious ceremonies / rituals, military parades, etc.)?

    Personally I don't understand the need or desire for any of it, but I can at least understand that some people do feel that it's meaningful. I wouldn't walk into a synagogue or a church or a mosque and start being disrespectful during their ceremonies, even if I don't personally see the value. It's the same here - even if you don't see the value, to them and a lot of others, it's very important and meaningful. Being disrespectful of that is at best very rude.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago* (1 child)

    yeah I think those ceremonies are inherently silly as well

    not saying you shouldn't be respectful and quiet but the way those soldiers do the overly robotic rifle check and salutes and stuff is mental

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    I mean, it's more closely akin to a cheerleading or dance routine than a military exercise, but also, it's not exclusive to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier or even to the united states. It's all part of military drill, in many countries.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 hours ago

    Overcompensating so hard you can tell they don’t mean it.

    All any decent person would have done would be to call the soldier personally and apologize, then issue a public apology acknowledging what they f’d up and why they were wrong.

    Instead it’s a meaningless medal and they’ll probably still screw with thia soldier’s career.

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  • [–] 28 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    That's certainly the correct move from a PR standpoint. Wonder who thought of it cuz it certainly wasn't fucking Kegsbreath.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 hours ago

    This is what was going through my head when he yelled at them.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 hours ago

    This is the only time I am aware of the Trump administration doing anything classy - wtf

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  • [–] 3 points 8 hours ago

    "Sorry daddy"

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  • This is such a stupid country

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago

    Man this guy just can't be a candidate as the first group of people to be impeached and forcibly removed fast enough.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 hours ago* (1 child)

    I would love to know what was going through that Sentinel's mind as he was getting this medal.

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  • [–] 2 points 42 minutes ago

    Hm. Seems he has a humiliation fetish.

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