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[–] 47 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Were any of the House republicans also caught in that traffic jam?

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  • [–] 25 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

    7 Republicans missed the vote but don't know why.

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  • [–] 73 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

    Can we just start eating people

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  • [–] 137 points 11 hours ago* (2 children)

    Relevant supplement to this

    Lawmakers Report That Some Democrats Missed Hegseth Impeachment Vote to Attend Event for ‘AIPAC Front Group’

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/aipac-front-group-hegseth

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  • [–] 27 points 7 hours ago

    How nice of them to put themselves on the list of people for serious Americans to vote against next election so early in the cycle. I thought it would take a few months for them to make themselves this known.

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  • [–] 128 points 11 hours ago (6 children)
  • [–] 41 points 8 hours ago* (2 children)

    On its face, this seems like a dirty trick by Republicans. Mike Johnson called a recess, then after members left, called a snap vote on whether to proceed with impeachment with no warning. This entire spectacle reeks of a planned Republican scheme to try to influence the outcome through procedure and sow division within the Democratic party. The Republican House caucus was obviously made aware this was happening so they would stick around.

    That any House Speaker can call a snap vote like this is a serious problem for our democracy.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    But you have to be smart enough to know that's a possibility. That's a trick that they've used before and has been used before for decades. A good leader, someone good at whipping votes, has to be aware of these tricks and has to be ready for them. A good leader would be able to keep his people ready for this kind of trick. There was only a small window they could have pulled it in.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 hours ago

    And I'm sure if some random person on Lemmy could figure it out, the people who've actually worked in the job for years or decades would have figured it out too. This is just whitewashing the Democrats culpability in aiding the Republican agenda yet again.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 hours ago

    So, the israelis threw a party way the fuck in nowhere right before a critical vote, and there just happened to be a huge traffic jam blocking their only path back to vote?

    So, throw a party then crash a truck to continue their war of genocide uninterrupted. It's what their fictional gawd told them to do. Everything is justified by a fictional being that lives in their religious psychopathy.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    So try again tomorrow, and be on time?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 hour ago

    Try again in 2027 when the new congress take effect and the Democrats actually have a majority and not dependent on Republican dissidents, and presumably a Democratic speaker that isn’t interested in blocking the vote.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 hours ago

    ahhh, the dog ate my homework excuse.

    Where was the minority whip ? fucking around as well?

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  • [–] 37 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

    It wasn't an impeachment vote. It was a vote to send it to committee which is what the Republicans wanted to delay. The vote was moved up and closed early by Johnson. In all honesty, any impeachment needs to be done in January because it will actually pass the Senate and Dems would control the approval of the nomination.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

    Why is a vote allowed to go through it representatives are stuck in traffic

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  • [–] 32 points 9 hours ago

    Because Johnson. He was aware people were en route and closed the vote.

    Its also misleading, its "some of the 11". Pelosi was in CA for a veterans day event, another was going in for a medical procedure, another had an unrelated (and unspecified) personal emergency, like 4 said they were stuck in traffic (motorcade blocking traffic), and I think it was 2 at the AIPAC event.

    Not excusing anything here BTW, just pointing out the title is kinda shitty.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

    I mean, everyone not being in attendance can't automatically delay votes, or anyone could unilaterally block a vote by just not showing up. However, I think we all know why the vote was moved up and closed early - it's specifically because they were stuck in traffic.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

    They shouldn't have needed to be at a specific location to vote for more than 100 years... How is it still allowed to be an excuse.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Alternatively

    Having been required to be at a specific location to vote for more than 100 years is probably a good reason to be at the location

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    I'm actually not sure it will pass the senate even after we get 54 DNC Senators in because I'm pretty sure it's still 60 to remove even though it was 50 + VP to confirm? It's a little confusing.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

    These people are miscreants of the worst kind for this. In addition, though, maybe we should update the rules so people don’t have to be in one fucking building all at the same time in order for our government to function. We have the technology, people. We can make it better, faster, and stronger than what it is now.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    How many of their constituents will remember this 23 months from now?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

    Actually, I’d like to keep it that way for now. These fuckers use Microsoft for their confidential emails. I don’t want to imagine the huge security issues they’d create in voting for budgets and legislation.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 hours ago*

    sure the traffic, when the ones missing are all aipac donees. no ones falling for the republican deflection method right now by the dems.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 hour ago

    America desperately need to implement recalls

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  • [–] 4 points 36 minutes ago

    If I am absent for a meeting at work I get at least asked why, and would suffer consequences if the reasons are not valid.

    I am by no means an essential worker or a lawmaker....

    How the fuck do politicians dont get fired by these kind of things?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    Well sure they wernt going to admit it was actually because they were busy at thier hate group meeting.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    ....this, this is my ass...

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  • [–] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-California) was in San Francisco attending a Veterans Day celebration, where she was being honored for her advocacy on behalf of veterans.

    “Speaker Emerita Pelosi returned to San Francisco to join and honor local veterans at Swords to Plowshares’ 30th Annual Veterans Day Celebration tonight, an important and longstanding district tradition she regularly attends and will mark for the last time as a Member of Congress by receiving the Lifetime Advocate for Veterans Award,” Pelosi spokesperson Ian Krager told The Sun.

    Uh huh. Okay then.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago*

    I blame Hakeem Jeffries, minority leader, and Katherine Clark, Democratic Whip.

    Clark is even in the same group that some of the missing members attended a meeting of before getting stuck in traffic during the vote.

    Also, it didn't matter, this vote was meaningless.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 hours ago

    Oh look, the controlled opposition reared its ugly head even faster than I thought.

    Voting matters, but not just at the main elections. Building a party that is a coherent vision is needed too. The D have their own corruption to weed out.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago

    This is the same quality of excuse as saying “the dog ate my homework”.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (4 children)

    What about this vote was "key"? It's like one of many votes none of which will result in anything before the new congress takes office on January 3rd.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    Key in that, had they shown up, it would have passed. Some just skipped it completely, some were "stuck in traffic" but all of them were not doing their jobs.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 hours ago

    And in January, Democrats will point back at this vote and claim there's "little political will to impeach him" so they'll focus on "real priorities" like working with Republicans to only give $50 billion in additional funding to ICE instead of the $70 billion that they wanted.

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