Not to let this company off the hook for their poor disclosure but just assume all data is being stolen from you the second you open a door. Even if a company seems legit they have a dozen sketchy vendors handling your data. If you don't like it you don't buy this ridiculous, gimmicky shit. It's bad enough we have to submit to these practices to use the dentist or the grocery store. You don't have to invite it into your life for some gewgaw that should be sold next to whoopie cushions and x-ray specs.

Worth knowing for anyone who owns one: since 2024 Colorado and California both treat neural data as sensitive personal information under their privacy laws. In Colorado that means it needs opt-in consent; in California you can tell the company to limit its use to what's needed for the service. If you're in either state, a deletion or limit-use request that names the neural data specifically is the practical step, and "de-identified" brainwave data is a weak promise when the recordings are long and unique to each person.

We're getting closer and closer to that bit in Futurama where they beamed ads into your dreams.

People should probably start realising that Capitalism is completely incompatible with Privacy. ..and incompatible with 'freedom', and 'Democracy' and in general, incompatible with any type of nice world to live in, environment, bio diversity and so on.. Its not even necessary for 'innovation', 'incentives' or any of the other made up claims..

Not sure why some people still support that harmful anti-scientific/ideological belief system, but I guess the Oligarchs constant propaganda and manufacturing consent has something to do with it. Oh well..

Why anyone would connect a brainwave scanner to the internet and the wear for 8 hours every night it is beyond me. I've run out of sympathy. This is like slathering yourself in blood and jumping into a shark tank.

At a certain point, personal accountability for your privacy has got to enter the conversation with normal people.

'Muse' and 'Sleep' are both bands. This really confused me.

If it connects to the internet don't connect it to your body. Finger prints, face ID, blood sugar, brain waves, online DNA services.

What does that even mean? If you're using the device as intended, it collects a few changing numbers while you're presumably laying in bed asleep. You can train a computer to be able to answer "If somebody is wearing a brain wave monitor and these are the readings, is that person asleep?" Maybe they can infer sleep quality? These types of scanner cannot tell what you are thinking.

Jesus

"Muse anal probe users weren't told that the collected data was used to train AI" - stop using Meta products, you dimwits.

I honestly don't know what they expected. Or why they'd pay money for the thing in the first place.

Same shit that Oura ring wearers or people who upload exercise or sleep data are doing, but scarier. F this.

Muse are a band. I will never not think of the band. It's a stupid name for AI

At this point, assume anything associated with the company called "meta", "Facebook", or other related properties, and anything relating to their AI "Muse" is probably harvesting your data to train AI, or it is being sold to third parties for advertisements.

The service is "free" because you are the product being sold. They don't charge the trees for taking their apples.

Also, assume anything to do with "AI" or any company that has their own "AI", as well as anything publicly accessible on the Internet, is being used as training data.

Be sure to interject white text on a white background of poison training data. People won't see it, and AI will get so fucked up in the long run.

Muse sleepband?

Oh yah, this can't possibly cause problems

black mirror irl

"de-identified"... Right

Like people aren't wearing smart watches or generally using smart phones and laptops. It's a bit naïve to think we haven't already added our data into companies