Oh, is that the proof? I was still on the fence.
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But who is buying? Also aren't the industrialized countries shrinking in population? Why are prices going up then?
In the West, the decline in population is offset by immigration so there is always demand for housing but limited supply. I don't know about South Korea, but in Japan, the houses really are affordable because of population decline.
in Japan, the houses really are affordable because of population decline.
Isn’t that mostly in the rural areas only though? Because the old people are dying off and the younger ones are leaving to move to the cities.
Average age of first time home buyers is at 36 now (Up from 30 ten years ago). More than a quarter of them are over 40. About one-in-ten are buying entirely in cash from money they inherited when parents died.
Basically, the only people buying are people who got help from their parents. Otherwise, it's all private equity and Mom-and-Pop landlords trying to build their little fiefdoms.
Guilty. I got my condo at 43.
I'm only able to afford it because I took a huge gamble in March 2020, borrowed from my Roth 401k at work, and put a few thousand bucks in oil stocks which I was able to hold onto for a couple of years because I didn't have any emergencies.
It wasn't fuck you money, but it was life changing. Paid off my student loans and put the rest into a down payment on my home.
Zillow defines a starter home as one in the lowest third of home values in a given region. As of June, the typical starter home nationwide was worth $198,649, up 1.7% from a year earlier. But in well over 200 U.S. cities, starter home prices are a whopping five times as high as that.
Jesus Christ, I just wish all of these DSA's, starting next year, would hold every fucking piece of legislation hostage until the food, rent, and health care crises are addressed.
Who ever needs proof probably doesn't live in this country
I'm in NZ, and the other day I was actually idly wondering what house prices were like in the US.
Based on this: it turns out the same nominal price, about $1m in whichever country/currency. We generally approximate USD/NZD as 0.50 (so double it to get NZD).
We've priced my generation and my children's generation out of housing here, sounds like it's twice as bad there.
From what I read it's across the board. Every western democratic state: unaffordable housing. It's too eerie. It's like these nations move lockstep into the exact same issues. Yet for one class it's not an issue at all. If you own property you're wealthier than ever before. Don't own though? You'll never own.
I think it's market manipulation from software companies. I'm too lazy to write about it now, but where a market seemingly looks 'free' (different 'markets' in different nations with many vendors) they're all using the same software. Computer says nudge the price up a bit here and there... eventually every house is worth a million plus, regardless of what western nation you visit. Cory's written about software's impact on labour markets. Same ideas. Go read him if you want.
A good example is perhaps airbnb: pushed housing costs up globally and it very quickly became problematic.
I think history will not be kind to today's governments. Software companies run amok and just fuck up everything for everyone but a very small number of people.
Meanwhile in China...
This is why USA fear and hate mongers against AES and even capitalist states that heavily regulate business and/or nationalize certain industries to see some if the wealth benefit average citizens without joining an alliance or being a US lackey.
the only issue with that theory is that the cost (excluding labour) of building a new house has roughly followed the price of housing
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