▲ 23 ▼ Starter homes cost $1 million in a record 242 U.S. cities—proof the affordability crisis has hit the homes meant for first-time buyers (fortune.com) submitted 17 hours ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/usa@lemmy.ml 5 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Ajdee6@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago* (4 children) Who ever needs proof probably doesn't live in this country permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 7 points 16 hours ago (3 children) I'm in NZ, and the other day I was actually idly wondering what house prices were like in the US. Based on this: it turns out the same nominal price, about $1m in whichever country/currency. We generally approximate USD/NZD as 0.50 (so double it to get NZD). We've priced my generation and my children's generation out of housing here, sounds like it's twice as bad there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children) From what I read it's across the board. Every western democratic state: unaffordable housing. It's too eerie. It's like these nations move lockstep into the exact same issues. Yet for one class it's not an issue at all. If you own property you're wealthier than ever before. Don't own though? You'll never own. I think it's market manipulation from software companies. I'm too lazy to write about it now, but where a market seemingly looks 'free' (different 'markets' in different nations with many vendors) they're all using the same software. Computer says nudge the price up a bit here and there... eventually every house is worth a million plus, regardless of what western nation you visit. Cory's written about software's impact on labour markets. Same ideas. Go read him if you want. A good example is perhaps airbnb: pushed housing costs up globally and it very quickly became problematic. I think history will not be kind to today's governments. Software companies run amok and just fuck up everything for everyone but a very small number of people. Meanwhile in China... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 14 hours ago This is why USA fear and hate mongers against AES and even capitalist states that heavily regulate business and/or nationalize certain industries to see some if the wealth benefit average citizens without joining an alliance or being a US lackey. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 hours ago the only issue with that theory is that the cost (excluding labour) of building a new house has roughly followed the price of housing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 7 points 16 hours ago (3 children) I'm in NZ, and the other day I was actually idly wondering what house prices were like in the US. Based on this: it turns out the same nominal price, about $1m in whichever country/currency. We generally approximate USD/NZD as 0.50 (so double it to get NZD). We've priced my generation and my children's generation out of housing here, sounds like it's twice as bad there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children) From what I read it's across the board. Every western democratic state: unaffordable housing. It's too eerie. It's like these nations move lockstep into the exact same issues. Yet for one class it's not an issue at all. If you own property you're wealthier than ever before. Don't own though? You'll never own. I think it's market manipulation from software companies. I'm too lazy to write about it now, but where a market seemingly looks 'free' (different 'markets' in different nations with many vendors) they're all using the same software. Computer says nudge the price up a bit here and there... eventually every house is worth a million plus, regardless of what western nation you visit. Cory's written about software's impact on labour markets. Same ideas. Go read him if you want. A good example is perhaps airbnb: pushed housing costs up globally and it very quickly became problematic. I think history will not be kind to today's governments. Software companies run amok and just fuck up everything for everyone but a very small number of people. Meanwhile in China... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 14 hours ago This is why USA fear and hate mongers against AES and even capitalist states that heavily regulate business and/or nationalize certain industries to see some if the wealth benefit average citizens without joining an alliance or being a US lackey. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 hours ago the only issue with that theory is that the cost (excluding labour) of building a new house has roughly followed the price of housing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children) From what I read it's across the board. Every western democratic state: unaffordable housing. It's too eerie. It's like these nations move lockstep into the exact same issues. Yet for one class it's not an issue at all. If you own property you're wealthier than ever before. Don't own though? You'll never own. I think it's market manipulation from software companies. I'm too lazy to write about it now, but where a market seemingly looks 'free' (different 'markets' in different nations with many vendors) they're all using the same software. Computer says nudge the price up a bit here and there... eventually every house is worth a million plus, regardless of what western nation you visit. Cory's written about software's impact on labour markets. Same ideas. Go read him if you want. A good example is perhaps airbnb: pushed housing costs up globally and it very quickly became problematic. I think history will not be kind to today's governments. Software companies run amok and just fuck up everything for everyone but a very small number of people. Meanwhile in China... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 14 hours ago This is why USA fear and hate mongers against AES and even capitalist states that heavily regulate business and/or nationalize certain industries to see some if the wealth benefit average citizens without joining an alliance or being a US lackey. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 hours ago the only issue with that theory is that the cost (excluding labour) of building a new house has roughly followed the price of housing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 14 hours ago This is why USA fear and hate mongers against AES and even capitalist states that heavily regulate business and/or nationalize certain industries to see some if the wealth benefit average citizens without joining an alliance or being a US lackey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 hours ago the only issue with that theory is that the cost (excluding labour) of building a new house has roughly followed the price of housing permalink fedilink source parent