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[–] 138 points 4 days ago (1 child)

Replace torment nexus with minority report

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  • [–] [S] 97 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    They’ve managed to turn »we think you might be dangerous« into a number on a screen, which apparently makes it science. And when that number ruins someone’s chances of rehabilitation, everyone gets to shrug and blame the software. What a convenient little invention.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Why is Psycho-Pass turning into reality? I hate this timeline

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  • [–] 67 points 4 days ago (9 children)

    This is like one step away from Minority Report... Does no one see the parallels? Did no one understand the moral of the story?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Yeah we have read it, we’re working on it would be the standard answer

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  • [–] 33 points 4 days ago

    We can be sure it is ramping up racist outcomes because it is trained on human input.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Phillip K. Dick was so prophetic that he had to drowned himself in drugs to keep from seeing more horrors.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    On a similar note, if Hunter S Thompson was still alive he would have killed himself all over again

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  • [–] 30 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    At this point, why do they care about predicting crime? Can't they just say "everyone is guilty, unless they are friends in business relationship with us."

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  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Because we know what predicts crime. Wealth inequality, unemployment and job insecurity, bad education, healthcare and especially mental health, segregation, that kind of thing. But by painting over it with AI with the right training data it can be blamed on personal responsibility and nothing to do with societal structural issues, so certain rich folks kan keep getting more rich.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago* (2 children)

    "it can be blamed on personal responsibility" so, this equals to "magic box says you are a bad person", at which point the magic box could just be a single "are we in business relationship with this person, yes or no?" decision. This was my point. You don't need complicated machinery if you know what results you want out of it.

    In the past the magic box was called God, or nation or clan, now it is called AI. There's always a puppeteer behind the box, so why bother actually wasting resources on the internals of the box.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    "We put this into the magic computer box so that we can optimize racism placement of incarcerated individuals."

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  • [–] 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    Just an excuse to further persecute prisoners without accountability. "Sorry it was a technical fault."

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  • [–] 16 points 4 days ago

    Ahhh... the office of precrime!

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago

    This is one of those self-fulfilling prophecies. If that system doesn't declare all inmates as "high risk to murder the people that implemented this system," it's obviously broken.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Wasn’t there a good short story about this turned into a worse movie?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago

    No that was a movie where they would arrest innocent people before they committed crimes. Fictional situation that's completely different. What they are doing here is probably just for 'good to know' type of information.. Right?

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  • There's a dystopian term for that already. It's called PreCrime.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago

    It "proves" itself too. Your algo puts them in solitary, and they don't commit any crimes. Proof it works! /s

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago

    Yay! More thought crime!!

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago*

    These tech bros , corrupt politicians, CEOs and shareholders need to be rounded up and thrown in these prisons because they never stop committing crimes

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago

    Does no one there remember Minority Report?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    They will commit future crimes when an opportunity presents itself.

    Done and done, no AI tokens needed. Thank you

    ETA from article

    In one case reported by ProPublica, a blind and wheelchair bound 70-year-old was determined to be a “moderate risk” of reoffending despite having a clean disciplinary record

    That will be one million dollars, please beep boop

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago

    Living the American dream

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  • [–] 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    Automated Racist Hetero Fascism fucking sucks.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    So I'm hetero and, by American measure, of a not hated racial background. But suppose I've liked some absolutely amazing girls who are, unfortunately, not hetero (or I'm not cool enough to transcend that barrier), and the guy who've introduced me to the concept of aerodynamics (when I was a kid) using frisbees as example was an African student, but I have some ideas that might be called fascist here, so can we please be more nuanced with what sucks?

    I mean, OK, I'm not automated, but how do you know.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    but I have some ideas that might be called fascist here

    That's a hell of a thing to just gloss over when asking for more nuance, especially these days.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    IRL what of my ideas can be called fascist is usually expressed by leftists, mostly anarchists. Systems of laws and influences with time become too complex for a society to not be constrained with them, and also dominated by negative selection of authority figures, which means you need violence to allow them to evolve further. I don't mean mass executions and dictatorships, just things like copyright and patents being bad, but not always, things like freedom of speech being good, but not always, and in general no absolutes being true.

    At the same time anarchist and leftist arguments don't seem to explain those parts and seem to keep them as pure emotion, while fascism has explanations (by its own rules, of course).

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    It's an orange ball! PRISON RIOT!

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    That's it! I'm gonna buy some of that american prison stock on questrade and start ratting out my neighbours for fun and profit! /s

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    Really? Did you use it on Mango Mussolini?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago

    Can they use this on politicians even if they have not been convicted yet?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    As a prisoner I would do everything I could to become absolutely unpredictable.

    from walking backwards in the lot, to doing cartwheels in my cell.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Here's the algorithm:

    White male? Low risk to reoffend!

    Everyone else? Maximum risk of repeat violent crimes!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    It's always the question what is optimized for. We had the public discourse in the west destroyed by so called algorithms (it was billionaires hiding behind algorithms). They just did not have the same incentives as the rest of humanity.

    Same here, high recidivicism could be optimal for shareholder value and such.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    🌈 🎉🎵 What could go wrong? 🎵 🎶 🌈

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