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[–] 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, don't you get it?

If you ever associate or feel good about anybody who ever turns out to be anything other than perfect, then you are also morally culpable for everything that person or group has ever done or will ever do.

That's why tankies have no friends.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I think IndustryStandard is some sort of troll, judging by their comment history. I’m just not sure why.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago

    It all adds to the whataboutism noise. Every so often someone dies or says something that will make everyone pause and think or mourn together. The trolls can't have that so they will find the one moment or talking point that will pull the angry base back into the fold or at least stop the thinking.

    It kinda sucks. Like, there are some truly awful people out there and then there are some genuine and good people who have at one point or another had a bad take.

    Trolls like to make you think it's all the same.

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  • [–] [S] 35 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    He's been here awhile, they're definitely a tankie. Some of them like to poke at the "liberals" more often than others, they're probably at the upper end of that range, similar to braininabox, jankforlife etc.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    They’re very much behaving like low energy Kalingrad payroll people. No passion, no vision, just following instructions.

    The thing that’s really fucked about this is that they are openly calling for violence now, and that .world is allowing them to mod commities here, where if anyone says anything pro-democracy in their echo chambers you get permabanned and called a Zionist.

    That and they don’t care about the genocide, they use it as a dogwhistle to recruit disillusioned progressive young people and softly open them up to radicalisation and violence.

    You got to wonder why this platform is free.

    If nothing changes, the people who created this will be the ones to get it shut down when some idiot will blow up something and have a whole Lemmy history.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 week ago

    Tankies gonna tank.

    Destroying their own credibility is the only thing they excel at.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    When people are so full of shit they constantly look for a target to throw it at.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago

    Admittedly, the post still has almost only downvotes. But whoever posted that has some issues.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    I imagine a future where there is no religion, no war, and nothing to kill or die for.

    You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    I don't know how good or bad Patrick Stewart was....

    But I loved the character of Captain Picard.

    They are not the same thing.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    He definitely embodied starfleet ideals on and off the screen, he was genuinely a good person

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Years ago I saw some clips of him saying some cringe sleezy things to who ever he was with. I've seen clips of his sense of humor. He definitely wasn't trying to "embody starfleet ideals"

    ...so I think he was just a man off set. Like all actors, like any man. I wouldn't take that as some affront to Starfleet ideals... In fact it's more Starfleet to acknowledge he was just a human playing a role, so was a complete and flawed person outside of that idealized role (you know humanize him, give him his humanity)... Rather than to keep up this pretense that he was the embodiment of the character off and on set.

    That's not how actors and acting works.

    He may have been a good or bad man. I did not know him in daily life... And I don't think you did either. That's not something to be offended by.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago

    He was an all around good dude. A philanthropist.

    Have you ever thanked someone for something who ended up being not a great person? Yeah, it's not a big deal. That's basically what him thanking Israel amounts to.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Patrick Stewart was generally very kind and well liked in his field. He has also given very honest interviews where he admits that his career was most important thing in his life. Not with arrogance or pride but a sad self-understanding. There are elements of Picard in him, even if the whole of the man is not Picard.

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  • Most of the time I find tankie antics annoying or stupidly amusing, but this actually makes me legitimately angry.

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  • [+] -20 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Let me preface it with this tankies are terrible people who support a war of aggression on Ukraine but supporting a genocidal state that use the same propaganda to justify colonialism is not being imperfect it's being a disgusting scum.

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  • [–] [S] 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    He was pro Palestine, literally a few months after visiting Israel he was cheering the UN vote to recognize Palestine as a nonmember state "finally a first step towards Palestinian independence"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    What, specifically, did he say or do to support them? And what was the state of the situation at the time that he said it?

    If you're going to call someone "disgusting scum" you should have something more than a screenshot of a title posted by someone you think is a "terrible person".

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  • [–] -5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Opposing bds which goal id to hurt israelcprofit to try to put pressure on it. If he went during russia war if aggression on Ukraine to Ukraine thanking Russia and opposing the sanctions he would have been canceled but when it is about palestine , most people have very low standards

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    That's not specific. What did he say? Where? When? Citation?

    As far as I can tell, he took a 4 day vacation in 2011, and then played a role in a movie filmed there in 2012. He said he enjoyed the food and had a nice visit.
    Is that what you're extrapolating from?

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