Since proton is now evil not seeming good, I'm looking to move my email and drive to another service. Tuta looks great, but they don't yet have cloud storage. Is there a supplemental service that you may recommend that I use for cloud storage, or even a different email provider that also has cloud storage? Thanks.

Edit: I have chosen to go with the email service Posteo. I am still looking at cloud storage options.

Edit 2: I have gone with filen. It is cheap, and I only used cloud storage for sharing files with people usually.

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[–] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i created my own cloud storage and it's MUCH more affordable in the long run, but i get that it can be expensive up front.

if you have an old laptop or desktop laying around collecting dust, then this is an option for you too.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

    Just separate the two, e-mail and cloud storage, and you'll be a lot more flexible.

    Posteo e-mail costs 1 EUR/month.

    As for cloud storage, either self-host or use a managed Nextcloud instance. IONOS' offering (500GB) comes in at 6 EUR/month.

    In total, that gets you to 7 EUR/month, which is still cheaper than Proton's unlimited package (clocking in at 10 EUR/month). On the downside, you still haven't got a VPN at that pricing. But I'd keep that separate from mail and file storage anyway.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Is there anything that just does cloud storage and does it well? (With offline files)?

    My attempts with nexcloud were awful.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    My attempts with nexcloud were awful.

    Please elaborate. I keep hearing this take and can't make heads or tails of it. For me, Nextcloud has been rock-solid, and I've been using / running it for many years now.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Infomaniak Ksuite. Migrated a year ago and been happy so far.

    Other options I looked at:

    Murena

    Internxt

    PeerGOS

    Pcloud

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    I've been testing k suite with one email and have had no issues, so much so that I literally added a second email yesterday. And installed their version of one drive, which is something I never do. I'm looking forward to test driving this.

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  • Just want to add there is also the app Cryptomator that encrypts data before uploading it into a cloud

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Tuta Drive is in closed beta. Could be available soon.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    I use Jottacloud. 79 nok/month (9 euro perhaps?) for 1 TB.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Thunderbird? They provide mail now.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago*

    backups! whatever you do make sure you have automated backups. just saying.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Filen.io has been fantastic for me for years now, but give it a test drive to see if fits your needs. E2EE & 10gb free plan.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    Their windows client is awful, I managed to break it so it said stuff was uploaded when it wasn't within the first day of being with them. Immediately cancelled and went elsewhere.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Works famously on Linux on android. Haven't used Windows in years. That's why always nice to be able to test drive it and see how it works for ones needs.

    In any case, every one has their favorite angry anectode, thanks for sharing

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I'm using Mega (20GB free) and Internxt (1TB lifetime plan). I have not done any particular research, nor have I read their privacy policies. I'm in the early stages of planning my transition to self-hosting, checking out hardware prices and drawing logic drafts of the interconnectivity (LAN, WAN, me, groups, others) that I want to be able to achieve.

    Internxt forces you to use their app on your phone unless you enable viewing the desktop version of the website. Even then, they have made it so that uploads and downloads eat all your RAM, crashing the browser before larger files can finish processing. A workaround is to use their app or .appimage if you're on Linux.

    I haven't used Mega long enough to be able to say anything about it yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    I saw someone mention pCloud and thought I'd take a moment to point out that if you can afford a heftier upfront cost, pCloud has different levels of Lifetime plan and probably will have a decent Black Friday sale for it. That said, they could probably change the terms of that retroactively, I don't know anything about the company itself, but still worth mentioning. Personally, I'd recommend something like on prem NextCloud (or similar) with backups going to pCloud. Bonus points for encrypting those backups with Cryptomator.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Really?
    Being a dick is "evil"?

    The majority of companies are run by dicks and assholes; Even the good ones. Almost especially the good ones.

    Honestly, the term "evil" seems only ever used to give people (themselves mostly) permission to shun, without looking at what's actually wrong, and occasionally trying to do something about it. It's lazy.

    Does Proton have internal management problems to fix? Absolutely! Along with virtually every other organization.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 week ago

    That's fair. I wasn't trying to use "evil" in that way, but I understand your perspective. Their goal for the most part of still the same, I was just thinking about Google's catchphrase "Don't be evil" and then they started not really following that. To me this feels somewhat similar, a wavering of sticking to proton's goals

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