On the other hand the Frame works so well that I love using it for flat games too. It looks like you're playing on a giant cinema screen. You notice little details you never did before.

Now if only the autonomy was better.

VR is pretty much like the kinect, if you stop to think about it. Compared to a typical computer or console, you need more space for it to work best. It also lacks a "killer app", kinect had a bunch of dance games, but VR's best offer thus far is VRChat, which relies entirely on community.

There's also the matter of money. Meta Quest is the cheapest option, but you'll be stuck with Meta tracking and will have to shell out extra for Steam VR games.

It's kind of the same problem the original Steam Machine had.
You can't really expect most devs to support the platform that's not very popular.

It's too bad VR requires specialized hardware and the Frame had to launch when it did...
But the overwhelming demand despite the price proves VR is far from dead, we just need a device worth the price (and is actually available to buy...).

Add cool vr features to flatscreen games?

where are my nano robot pills that activate and co ordinate interactive psychedelic gaming experiences? I want to game and jerk off without moving. skip the haptics and talk right to my nervous system. no matrix plug required.

As a VR developer, who loves that stuff, yes, I want to believe, too.

How about the chicken-and-where-is-my-Frame dilemma?

Can't even order one.

Man I wish they could have come out with the new vr device in 2023.

Outside of flight/ driving sims I don't really see any uses for it that aren't ultimately clunky and gimmicky.

I think that's always been the biggest hurdle. VR is one of those things where once you've seen it, you've pretty much seen it all. Even Half Life Alyx couldn't get the general public interested and I have heard nothing but good things about it.

If it was any good there wouldn't be a chicken and egg situation. People would flock to vr if it wasn't a steamy pile of dog shit.