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For one to one chats and the occasional group chat? XMPP is pretty awesome and has lots of good clients (Conversations on Android, Monal on iDevices, Dino, Gajim, etc. on Linux)
If you want something closer to Discord and host public communities or very large chatrooms, Matrix is very good. You can self-host it with Continuwuity, and there are lots of clients too (Cinny, FluffyChat, Element, Fractal, NeoChat, etc.)
If you just need voice chat, Mumble is simple and works well.
but what good client that isnt designed for just businesses
Personally I like Sable, it feels closer to Discord, has call support, and "just works"
Cinny is also still a very good option! Especially if non-techy people are gonna be using it, as its UI is more stable (as in, changes less)
services:
sable:
image: git.sable.moe/sableclient/sable-next:latest
ports:
- '127.0.0.1:8080:8080'
volumes:
- ./config.json:/app/config.json:ro
restart: unless-stopped
Looks pretty simple to selfhost the web client too
https://github.com/SableClient/sable-next/blob/main/Caddyfile
Edit~~: I couldn’t get it working, moved to selfhosting cinny~~
Edit2: I got it working 🤘
Use this config file as a base https://git.sable.moe/SableClient/sable-next/raw/branch/main/static/config.json
I'd say Element is the one to go for. A list of clients is available here:
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/
I think the clients are all better lately. For Android I prefer Schildi Chat Next. For most everything else we use my self hosted Cinny web app. My only iPhone user likes elementX. Fluffy Chat is solid for messaging only, but I did not like that it can't do the voice and video calls. They may have added that by now, I'm not an expert.
Cinny is an awesome desktop client, as is Element, Fractal (GNOME, no spaces support though) and NeoChat (KDE)
For mobile, I personally prefer FluffyChat, but there's other options too.
edit: I currently use Sable (a fork of Cinny I think), still using FluffyChat on Android.
Cinny calls an old matrix endpoint that returns 403 I’m surprised more people aren’t getting their home ip fail2banned.
/_matrix/media/v3/config for those who are interested.
It worked for me, so dunno if this is a widespread issue. I now use Sable though since I prefer it over Cinny (it's a fork with extra bits I think)
Matrix, and I recommend selfhosting Continuwuity as it is lightweight and easy to spin up. Your other option could be XMPP with Snikket or proper Prosody.
Though do you have any particular features you wanna bring over from Facebook Messenger?
I tried a bunch. Right now I'm running Snikket (xmpp) and it's been very reliable.
Pidgin, maybe. I like it.
Edit: Oops, I might have misread/misunderstood what you were asking. If you're asking about server software, I'd suggest XMPP :)
Though I know Matrix is very popular (as shown by people others suggesting it)
Are you asking just for general self-hosted messengers? Why did you mention Facebook specifically?
Because it hasn't been mentioned:
IRC
Sometime also mentioned SimpleX, which I'm looking into myself, but have no experience currently.
I love IRC but it's absolutely not usabale for non-tech people
There is quite a bit of friction in the setup. After that, it's smooth.
Honestly no.
How do you join a channel? How to start private message? How to setup e2ee? How do I recieve messages when I'm offline (bouncer)? how do I send files/images/video? There's lots of things to learn, understand and setup
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