New Discord clone ("Harmony") with a suspiciously AI-looking website, a single contributor, and blistering development = AI. Took me a minute to find it but it looks like they were scrubbed from a few places ~3 weeks ago.

https://github.com/y4my4my4m/harmony/pull/82

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[–] 54 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
  • [–] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (5 children)

    Discord alternatived are appearing like fungi and apparently vibe coders notice that, i discovered about 2 new vibe slopped discord alternatives in less than 2 days

    The other one being yappers

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Yeah there was nothing for years and years and then Discord introduced age verification and they were popping up like crazy, every one of them cuck coded. Sharkord, Chatto, Roomy, I'm sure others I'm forgetting. And now this.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Luckly there is still stuff like Stoat that does not seem vibe coded (or at least it wasn't last time i checked?)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Last time I ckecked, Stoat had a closed source Android app. I also feel like of you can, you should just run Matrix. It works, and feels a lot more versatile than those attempted Discord clones, especially due to federation.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Tbh i don't really like Matrix, especially because the most selling feature of discord for me is the guild and role system with granular permission management

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  • [–] 71 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)
    $ git clone https://github.com/y4my4my4m/harmony && grep -R "//.*—" harmony | wc -l
    17
    

    17 em dashes in comments... yeah that's slop

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  • [–] 111 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You're right to push back — this does appear to be AI generated.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    I've been using an em-dash for ages. Now people think I'm either a bot or use an AI to write for me. This is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You use em-dashes in code comments? It has its place in regular prose, but a comment is not a novel

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Thank you for your training data. o7

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    I understand your frustration. It helps me personally to remember that it's not quite GenAI that is the problem—it's the greed that surrounds its implementation/usage. GenAI could have been just a tool, occasionally useful, but our obsession with productivity and the capitalistic goal of replacing workers to get even more profit for the owning class—or in other words just personal greed—is the real problem, not GenAI.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    It's not the em-dashes, it's the feelings we have about them. Concern, trepidation, confusion. We don't need to stop using them, we need to take a breath. generated by the slopinator 5000

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    And honestly, you're right to feel that way. Em-dashes are a genuine indicator of AI usage.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    So are words. 🤷‍♀️ Em dashes are only well-represented in LLM output because they’re well-represented in the training data. There’s no simple litmus test, the scummy LLM companies would just tweak their models if there was one.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (5 children)

    I think you could use -o instead of regex? not sure :D

    $ git clone https://github.com/y4my4my4m/harmony && grep -Ro "—" harmony | wc -l
    
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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    The regex is to match only em dashes in comments (following a //). If you want to search for all em dashes you can just do that (though there's no need for the -o since grep matches lines and wc -l counts lines).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    no need for the -o since grep matches lines and wc -l counts lines

    grep -o prints each match on a separate line, so the wc -l count will be higher if there are any lines with multiple matches.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 weeks ago (11 children)

    It's alright. As far as Matrix clients go, I like Sable. But Fluxer is on another level, I've really been enjoying it.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    Fluxer has a permissive LLM policy, it’s why I chose Stoat over it.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    Well Stoat has been in development limbo for the last decade and has no plans for federation.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    I guess that's a fair point, Matrix is also an option if federation is important.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Matrix is a terrible, buggy option, sure. And with Fluxer being similarly open source and federated we may run into similar problems down the road.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    terrible, buggy option

    Can you elaborate? It’s nowhere near perfect but it works well enough to daily drive in my opinion.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I mean the list is long. Login issues, random decryption issues, it's incredibly slow, everyone is using a different software so things that work on one instance don't appear on others. It's a shitshow.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Aside from decryption issues I haven’t really experienced any of the others. I think having different clients and homeservers is actually a good thing. Imagine if Lemmy only had one client, the website, then I most likely wouldn’t even be using Lemmy/PieFed.

    I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to when you say “things”, I’ve been using Cinny for quite some time and haven’t had many issues with it. Most of these projects don’t have (proper) funding so naturally it develops more slowly than platforms with monetisation like Fluxer. It’s worth considering donating or contributing in other ways if you wish to see your favourite client or the protocol improve.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Obviously decentralization is good. But it does lead to a lot of problems as well where everyone isn't on the same page.

    Most of these projects don’t have (proper) funding so naturally it develops more slowly than platforms with monetisation like Fluxer

    What "proper" monetization do you think Fluxer has that these other platforms don't?

    It’s worth considering donating or contributing in other ways if you wish to see your favourite client or the protocol improve.

    Why would I contribute to 20 year old projects in the hopes of improvement when Fluxer is already everything I want?

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