Though CISA re-emerged in September with a last-minute security plan for the election, some state officials told ProPublica they fear that what is left of the agency has been compromised by a conspiracy-obsessed presidential administration. In recent months, in reviving debunked theories about the 2020 election, the Trump administration has declassified troves of records, including sensitive material that state officials provided to CISA. Some state authorities said they no longer trusted the administration enough to share information with CISA, a key to the agency’s success in past elections.

“They’ve violated the entire premise of that information-sharing relationship,” said one former high-ranking federal cybersecurity official who now advises state governments on national security. “There’s no fucking way they’re ever going to give any information to CISA. And it’s unclear if they ever will in the future.”

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[–] 37 points 2 weeks ago

Moreover, the agency had been directed not to alert the voting machine company if it uncovered flaws, contrary to its standard practices. The request made the CISA employees fear they were being asked to take part in political interference.

“My thought was they could keep it in their back pocket to invalidate any [election] results they don’t like,” one of the former officials said. “This goes against everything CISA represents.”

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  • [–] 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Here's the thing literally any other administration this would be a sane and normal thing to do (but maybe not secretly). You'd want the government to be able to help the states that use them to understand the risks to prevent the actual fuckery this admin is trying to do...

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago

    The “try to hack us to see if we’re vulnerable” part is 100% standard practice for security audits. It’s called penetration testing, and there is an entire industry set up around the idea of legally breaking into secure facilities, just to see if their security is working. It is healthy, because it can be a valuable tool for finding major security flaws.

    The massive glaring issue is the fact that they asked the penetration testers to hide their results, and not alert the agencies involved. The entire point of a penetration test is to see if attackers can get in so that you can fix the issues they used to breach your facility. If the penetration testers aren’t sharing their results, it’s just fucking breaking and entering to tamper with voting machines. Asking the penetration testers to hide their results is like asking a surgeon to pull out a perfectly healthy organ.

    At least the security company noticed this, and had the ethics to actually come forward about it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Right, I was just about to say the same. Were it literally any other administration, except maybe for Nixon but they didn't have voting machines, this would just be normal security stuff. Unfortunately for this administration of nuts who will 100% try to cheat and probably have at least twice before, it's very alarming.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago

    Seems like paper ballots would be more secure.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    The Alt-right cheating at an election? No0 wAy!

    Why do you think they brought together the billionaires? To talk about AI? 🤣 Bitch please

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    [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I hate how they never seem to look past trump and to whatever entity controls him.

    It's obvious he's a useful idiot. He's not some mastermind or crime lord.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    We all speculate his handler is Putin, that has become clearer and clearer... now that the Russian Federation is basically allies with US... it's definitely keep your enemies closer situation favoring Russia.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago

    Of course it is he has told all republicans to cheat and is mobilizing his private army to attack American citizens who are going to try to vote.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I'm kinda wondering why they hadn't done it already. If you supply these machines for voting, you should be red-teaming them constantly to get vulnerabilities fixed. Isn't that the purpose of this agency? What do they do, stand around and wait for someone to tell them that they can be hacked?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago

    There have been efforts to do this in the past. DEF CON's Voting Village spent a lot of effort to get second hand voting machines and provide them for hackers to try to compromise. The voting machine companies hated it, because it often demonstrated pretty terrible security practices. Since fixing security is expensive, they often adopted a "security through obscurity" mindset and refused to have anything tested. DEF CON still has a Voting Village, though I'm not sure if they still offer up machines for direct attack. Though ya, why States are satisfied with machines which don't come with some type of standardized testing (including Red Teaming) is beyond me. The AVS WinVote's security was so atrociously bad that it was finally decertified in a lot of States.

    That said, hacking individual voting machines would be of little use if your goal is to change the outcome of an election, especially Statewide races. Polling in the US is really distributed, meaning that any effective attack would need to have multiple people all working in concert. And hacking on a machine by machine basis would take time and possibly create a lot of noise (statistical anomalies and the like). Big shifts would really come from pre-election tampering with things like voter rolls and propaganda/influence campaigns. That's where CISA could (or should have) helped. Showing up now is way too little too late. It's just the Trump administration trying to build up a bullshit case of "those silly States didn't let us help them. Now look at how badly they were all HACKED!" With, of course, Democrat wins being the only "proof" of said hacks.

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    [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Meaning the agency protecting the elections DIDN'T try to hack the machines up until now?

    Not that I would ever give Trump any benefit of doubt, but holy shit this is some confusing narrative.

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