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[–] 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The real story is why they ever thought a movie store on Xbox was a good idea

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It would have been good if it had been made all that usable. Many people were looking for a place to have all of their media in one. Smart TVs weren't the default like now, so they were trying to take the market from things like Roku and Apple TV and such. Still could have been useful if they had made it better than the crappy Smart TV interfaces (which wouldn't have taken much), but they never did, so it never really caught on.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I have an apple tv. If steam made an apple tv like steam box that played games, watched movies and tv shows and youtube id get one. I use linux so that thing doesnt exist and Id be pumped. I know many millenials wouldnt mind that for a tv

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is going to upset 10s of people

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Hopefully they focus their resources on whatever game studios remain.

    Just make easy to access movies and films from other sources on XBox, we don't need a Microsoft monopoly on streaming.

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    [–] 109 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Microsoft had a movies and TV store?

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They did. It was so awful with hardly any updates. I bought some things on it but usually when it was on major discount and connected to Movies Anywhere so I could watch it elsewhere.

    I don't know why they had the same movie for sale... one with bonus features, one without... for the same price. Every other platform includes the bonus features automatically. Why separate them? Is there someone out there thinking, hmm... I like this movie, but I don't want the bonus features.

    It was doomed to fail.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Movies Anywhere was the whole deal for me. With Microsoft connected, I used MA for its wishlist to indicate when things were on sale. Sometimes MS had a sale when other services did not! But that's it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I own a couple that were only distributed in this region that way in an acceptable format for weird reasons related to localization. And then I moved internationally a couple of times and the Microsoft store REALLY isn't willing to understand that's a thing that can happen. It's been a bit of a mess and one of the multiple reasons to not use MS's store as a package/software manager in the first place.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Remember when Microsoft was telling shareholders that the Xbox multimedia ecosystem was going to dominate living rooms everywhere, then people stopped hanging out in their living rooms?

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I can see Microsoft just being the Azure company at this rate. Then they’ll have to charge what it costs to run and a lot of companies will wish they had stayed cloud agnostic.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    The business is basically thirds last I looked. Windows, Office and Azure.

    Not sure how their purchase of platform companies they shouldn't have been allowed to buy plays into that. Thinking LinkedIn and GitHub.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Azure is tiny compared to the competition.

    363 is much more successful comparatively. That said, its dying fast, with the utter garbage service upgrades, its enshitified hard into a rigid platform unsuitable for enterprises. So find/make a real alternative to EXO with the Outlook app: and 365 ends over night.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "You'll still be able to access your content"

    Yeah, until they release a new version of the launcher, or underlying framework, which prevents the old app to run, locking people out of the content they paid for.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I remember when they killed their Games For Windows store and the games I'd bought on there just went poof. Never trust Microsoft to keep a digital storefront around, they'll delete it all at the drop of a hat.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Remember when Xbox required a Live subscription to use the any streaming entertainment app?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I distinctly remember them failing a console launch spectacularly by (among other things) trying to pass it as a media center and talking about how great it is to watch TV on.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Don't forget one needed to stay online with Xbox Live subscription even for basic functionality and gaming during XBOne's E3

    Not to mention games were heavily reliant on DRM so you can't trade discs easily

    Meanwhile Sony...

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If you don't own the storage, you don't own the content. You're just renting it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Usually I agree with this sentiment but that gets dicey as if you store your work on a cloud service, they don't own the work, the company/person who made it does. They are just parking the vehicle they own in a rented garage. In this scenario you're saying you are renting a license to access it I suppose. Which would mean we are renting our driver's licenses per se, which is true I guess.

    *Where the fuck did my brain go with that metaphor

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That's slightly different. You aren't paying them to store that specific content, you are paying to rent space in their service. They guarantee that space to be available for whatever SLA they have and for as long as the service exists. If they shut down the service, you are still SOL on that content if you don't have it backed up locally.

    Contrast that to "buying a digital movie". You are paying to access that content, at that time, and as long as it's made available on whatever service you paid for it. The latter part is the kicker. My argument is that if I can't download it in a usable format independent of the platform "selling" it, I didn't buy it. I rented it. Buying digital movies is just renting them for a longer time frame, unless they let you download it.

    I always argue with the less tech savvy people in my life that it's like buying a car vs. leasing a car. If you buy it, it's yours, period. If you lease it, it's not truly yours. You have to give it back when the lease is up, or buy out the lease. You don't truly own it until after that. The media companies just don't offer the "buy out the ease, later", part. While Microsoft retired the whole service, these companies also have this issue when they let media agreements expire with content producers. You buy a movie, but then they decide not to renew their agreement with Paramount? You just lost access to that movie.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    You'll still be able to access content. But for how long?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    They did this with "plays for sure" DRM protected music files too, way, way back. Never bought content of any kind from them after that and then killing Windows LIVE.

    Just assume everything from them has a "destroy after" date set in the near future.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Laughs in 1200 disc DVD collection

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    laughs in 20tb raid10 multimedia storage

    ☠️

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    First time I hear about this store...

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Oh well. They should have brought back the Zune. And my Nokia windows phone in bright yellow.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I liked Zune. Microsoft is the real killer of their own demise. They have great products/ideas, but they just torch them before they take root.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    always after the ever elusive profit margin. can't have a product that lives forever became there's no more profit after the market has been saturated.

    they then take all the IP they have and either license the technology or sell it for a profit or loss depending on what is needed.

    doesn't matter though, because the consumer always loses.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Wait.. they had a movies and TV store?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It was terribly overpriced. No idea who used it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You’ll still be able to access content you own

    Haha yes, that was never in doubt.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    It will be if your using MS tech for it. They will pull the plug on that too. Just not yet, it's quieter to do it separately later.

    On it's on disks you control in formats you can play with anything you like, its never yours.

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  • if you can still sign in, then i recommend linking your account to moviesanywhere for the time being so you can at least access any movies purchased there in other apps.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I never knew either of these things existed for Xbox or windows. Who is stupid enough to buy streaming movies or tv shows? Oh xbox and windows users. Makes sense.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Microsoft slowly gutting everything to pay for another hit of Nvidia hard wear for their data centers.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Man, first Sony. Now Microsoft.

    It’s only Apple and Google plus whatever fandango/vudu is right? That’s Walmart?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Current CEO isn’t interested in anything consumer-related.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'd be deeply surprised if their TV and movie section even paid for the upkeep. Certainly I'd be surprised if anyone was spending money on it anymore. People have to know it's just a matter of time. You might as well light on fire any money you spend there.

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