A Trump administration official argued that the White House press secretary could technically be considered a “lawyer.” Legal experts have disputed that argument.

White House press secretary Katie Zacharia did not pass the California bar exam when she took it after graduating from law school, according to a senior administration official.

The official argued that Zacharia could technically be considered a “lawyer,” though not an attorney. Donald Trump referred to Zacharia as an “attorney” in his Truth Social post announcing that he was tapping her as press secretary.

But several lawyers told NBC News that “lawyer” is widely understood to refer to someone who has passed the bar exam and is licensed to practice law.

Zacharia’s failure to pass the bar exam was first reported by The Wall Street Journal. The new White House press secretary is facing questions about her legal credentials after the White House has not said whether Zacharia, who has repeatedly referred to herself as a lawyer, passed the bar exam.

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[–] 79 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

She passed the most important test for this regime: the ability to brazenly lie to the public.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    She was tapped for numerous reason.

    1. Dumb idiots like to stare at “attractive” (atrocious plastic pieces of shit).
    2. people in echo chambers like to be reinsured of their own beliefs.
    3. cause as many distractions as possible for the failing governments promises before the midterms.

    At the core all this current admin has done is prevent the Epstein files and allowed corruption to the highest degree.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Her face bothers me, I think she's had plastic surgery, although actually rather well done compared to the other maga personalities like loomer and gillfoyle and the like. Her fake tits are way way overdone how does anyone want that idk.

    Both Eric and Ivanka both have had plastic surgery to their faces too by the way. Check the before and after pictures.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    She looks hot in terms of a pornstar. It’s just like trump who has worked in advertising/ television he understand how to minpulate crowds, don’t listens to the words looks at all the other stuff while I spew nonsense.

    Examples: All the “monuments” he’s erected in DC. Revamp of the church cal offices with cheap gold painted ornaments from Home Depot. His rte revamp of the reflection pool, the ballroom , THEATER CENTER.

    He’s ruined everything.

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  • [–] 68 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Pepperidge farm remembers Jill Biden EdD being disparaged for appropriately using the title doctor. Party of hypocrites every one.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 weeks ago

    She's a blond so trumps tiny little bar gets hard. And that's the only bar exam she had to pass.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    The law says that misrepresenting yourself as one who practices or may practice law is the violation. It does not specify that you refer to yourself by any specific terms.

    There is no legal distinction between "lawyer" or "attorney" in California law. And speaking from nearly 4 decades of being an American and native English speaker, there is no colloquial difference either. They are used interchangeablly.

    Whatever lax meaning they are trying to project onto the term "lawyer" was made up wholecloth by them to obfuscate her (criminal) lie.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I know it's ridiculous, but you first need to define lawyer and attorney as representing ability to legally practice law. Then you can make falsely claiming this to be illegal. Without defining terms meant to define "represent practicing law," there's nothing to make illegal.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    That is not true. More than a few laws have been created, enforced and had judgements executed on them that were vague as fuck. Part of a judge's job is interpreting the law. Defining your terms adds clarity, but that is not a requirement. And were it a requirement, then you just move the goal post to defining your definition.

    You can add the definition:

    Referring to yourself by the terms "lawyer" or "attorney" qualify as representing yourself as one who practices or may practice law.

    Well what do you mean by "referring"? In writing? Verbally? In specific contexts? While soliciting business? Do you have to specifically say "I am a lawyer" or does implying you are one counts?

    What do you mean by "yourself"? Your qualifications? Your clothing/appearance? Your mindset? Your future goals? Your idealized self?

    You get the point. If you had to list every single way that a law could be broken, and define every single term within it (and within that, and within that, and within that, ad nauseum), then absolutley no law would be enforceable. Some amount 9f colloquial understanding of terms is required, as is intent.

    That's why people argue about the actual meaning of the 2nd Amendment, for example. They argue about the framers' intent, context, verbiage, historical precedent, practicality, etc. and lawyers and judges OFTEN come up with conflicting interpretation. That doesn't mean that the law gets thrown out. It means that judicial interpretation, precedent, practicality, and stare decisis (i.e. deference to the decisions of a higher court) all have a part to play in law.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    It's not that they cannot be held by a court to be illegal, it's that it's not explicit and can be argued away by a good team. This means the expense to try such a case grows and puts pressure on them not to. Trying it and failing also weakens the current law when applied to normies, which they cannot have either. In this case I'm sure the combination of politics and these loopholes mean it wouldn't be tried.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Reasonable doubt would be the standard then. But also it's ultimately an academic question because no prosecutor that isn't being a pedantic and/or vindictive asshole will try someone for this statute violation based on someone erroneously representing their credentials but not acting upon that misrepresention. This law is meant to protect people from fraudsters claiming to be lawyers. Not for the law equivalent of stolen valor. It's still illegal (and sad/scummy) but no one is going to waste their time trying this case.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago

    I’m not really a lawyer, but I play one on TV.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    What!? What about China? Didn't she pass it in China? Pretty sure she passed it in China!

    Isn't it illegal to impersonate a lawyer?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    I think the legality depends on what actions you take. If you just tell people that and don't provide legal services or advice, it's probably not illegal.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Well sweet! I'm gonna just add IAAL on my resume then!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    It's definitely illegal. The issue is portraying yourself as an attorney for a benefit which in this case is a job. There's no way that claim has no factoring in her hiring and if it didn't it would imply bribery or nepotism.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    But why would being a lawyer help get a job as a press secretary?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    Most press secretaries have a field speciality that is helpful with that administration's plans and motivations. Levitt was a political journalist that went to school for it, huck sans was poly sci/mass comm.

    And we don't know, finding out what would normally spark an investigation.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Hey, I don't think anyone in the Trump administration passes a bar without downing a few shots.

    Edit: been thinking. I guess "passes a bar without examining it" would have worked even better.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    She's a bullshitter? I did not see that coming.......... /s

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Her face bothers me. She sure overdid her fake tits too. The president sure has a type though, same type as rupert murdoch, unless you count all the men with fine buttocks in which case prez is a little different than rupert.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    She called herself a lawyer, she is not. Repercussions please.

    Edit: Ahhh ha ha ha, then she throws the president of her university under the bus

    The new White House press secretary told the New York Times on Wednesday that when she first began appearing on cable news, she had asked Pepperdine how she should identify herself.

    She said she was advised by the university president that she could call herself a lawyer, but not an attorney.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckqxne2evqreo

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    Probably passed a bartending class and confused that with law school.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The more I see pictures of these people, the more I get the feeling that everything they do is cosplay some weird projection onto themselves.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    What’s the over/under on her tenure vs the mooch?

    Edit: she’s out. Half a mooch.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Drivers exam, dental exam, she even failed the little crayon maze on the kids menu at Denny's.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Those menus are designed by liberals. The crayons are in rainbow colors, forcing our kids to be trans.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Every librul gets paid $300k/yr to design those menus in their cushy New York city office. And the only thing their boss says is drink more lattes! and hide the word "antifa" in the crossword puzzle!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    I'm not sure if she even passed the elementary school exam...

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    She’ll be a perfect fit!

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  • Donald Trump referred to Zacharia as an “attorney” in his Truth Social post announcing that he was tapping her

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    If trump admin didn’t have liars, kooks and un qualified dummies there would be no one.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I’ve see 7/9 seasons of Matlock. Pretty sure I’m a lawyer. Not to mention Night Court.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    As far as I know, Wisconsin is the only state where you can be a lawyer without passing the bar due to "Diploma Privledge"

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    So, does this mean most of the posters here are lawyers, by these extremely loose terms?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    So much for moving her entire family to Washington for this.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    Everyone nice and distracted yet? This is the hand tote supposed to be focused on while the other is raping your future.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago

    I'm still weirded out that you can graduate law school without passing a bar exam anywhere.

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