Good, fuck reddit.
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I'm surprised that reddit has leaned so hard into the act of perma-bans and site-wide bans. These are high intent users. Only a finite proportion of the internet wants to use reddit over say, TikTok, Instagram, Discord, etc. These bans are costing them a resource that is unlikely to renew itself, as users go elsewhere and do different things with their lives.
If all bans were capped at thirty days, that would still suck sometimes, but accounts I've had since the late 2000's could be revived. I had one account with 100k karma before it got burned down for my political views + ban evasion. Subreddit mods could even have a bot that re-bans users after 30 days, that's still preferable to reddit itself causing a mass extinction of old accounts that were valuable to the people who created them.
The good news is that reddit's growth in the US has slowed, while growth globally has climbed. That's good because US traffic is the most valuable, while overseas traffic, is often effectively worthless, like you can't sell anything to a lot of global traffic. This means reddits operating costs are increasing due to that higher overall site usage, while the rates of monetizable English speaking users is going flat.
I've seen some mention that reddit is embracing non English speaking users to acquire more users and content, but I can tell you as an Internet marketer, this move in general, among all who do it, is like trying to squeeze blood from a turnip, both because they're not valuable to advertisers, and users in places like Japan, Thailand, East Europe have already established usage patterns with LINE, Facebook, WhatsApp, Wykop, etc. The same network effect that keeps people like us stuck to reddit, keeps what little valuable international traffic there is, stuck to whatever they were already using.
The article I posted actually documents how corrupt Reddit is. For example, the two founders faked profiles and postings on a massive scale to make the site seem viable when it first started.
That's pretty standard for an internet startup for that time. That's a "we'll worry about the consequences later" SOP that has only become stronger in the current climate.
It’s a site with no integrity and social vison
They still allow some disgusting shit in the name of free speech, on the adult content side of things. As a public company, a lot of that is likely to be done away with in the coming few years.
Why should the Japanese or Koreans use American sites? They can create their own and generate wealth for their own economy. Google and Zuckerberg and the rest do not care about Japan or Thailand or China…
No idea, but the nature of reddit makes it hard to monetize. I don't think there's a financial case for all those countries to have their own link aggregation type social media sites.
i got banned fall 2023 in r/worldnews for suggesting that conflicts in the middle east are perpetuated for profit.
I've been recently sitewide banned for alleged ban evasion, the ban in question being a 3-day ban from r/youll_be_banned. Why on earth I'd ever evade that ban, it's beyond me. Obviously I didn't do that, but the automated system didn't like me I guess
I mean I WAS always more of a poster than a commentor, so if this article is true then maybe it does make sense why I got unlucky
Yet these actions also favor users who behave in the manner most useful to the platform’s economic model while making participation difficult for those whose primary goals are sharing articles and information, having thoughtful and civil discussions and presenting original content.
Has Reddit sacrificed an opportunity for meaningful civic discourse in its pursuit of extracting maximum value from its users’ unpaid labor?
Yes. Next question?
Can I just randomly throw in that new reddit's UI just plain sucks? Holy hell it’s bad. (I'm still looking at a few very niche subs.)
yes its bad, thats why i use old reddit both on mobile and on desktop. it is designed to ultimately force people to use the APP, which is even more data mining.
Old Reddit no longer shows up for me; it switches to new (I'm in browsers on mobile devices). -blech-
on mobile, i use the sink it extension to make it usable on mobile. or you can use yeoldreddit extension. no need to zoom in or pinch. however reddit has been aggresively try to annoy you with the backspacing(zooms in and forces it to the top of the page).
doesnt seem to work with ironfoxes, as no matter what extension im using it wont switch away from newreddit(something ironfox is doing is preventing what firefox allows
I’m just using it less. I was subscribed to over a dozen subs; now I have one I look at daily and two or three others I look at a few times a week. If the object of the game is to drive old reddit users off the platform completely, they’re succeeding. You’re welcome, spez.
"Aggressive bans", please. Half the site is the most obnoxious people you've ever met and the other half are bots. Normal people on reddit represent a statistically insignificant percent of users. I would love it if they could be aggressive with bans.
obnoxious people
The mods are obnoxious. And let's face it, you have to be in order to want to be a mod for free.
'Aggressive bans' should be 'random mod is just being a petty cunt'
I'd prefer a petty cunt with a backbone over a limp weenie unwilling to take a stand against dogwhisles and slop
they are banning, but usually only the actual users who dont have propaganda bots, or massive amount of accounts.
They ban aggressively based on who is in power at the time. When Biden was they banned even the tiniest discussion of vaccines in a not glowing positive light. With Trump they now treat Nazism as a legitimate political viewpoint and thus the whole punch a Nazi thing that used to be accepted as part of general culture became bannable as political violence and terrorism. Which I guess technically is true but it clashes with past American propaganda so it’s hard to unlearn.
reddit was always promoting right wing propaganda , so any inneundos were pontentially bannable too.
Nazism was legitimate enough to win some rigged elections in Germany less than a hundred years ago, I'm curious about how you would define minority and manage to exclude them while including the jewish that support Israel?
I'd rather a site filled with weirdos than one with even 40% normies
Can we talk about the unnecessary death of the Oxford comma?
Fuck all headlines that don't use it.
Although Reddit possesses many of the structural features of a public sphere, its economic incentives increasingly reward bias, outrage, conformity and superficial engagement instead of the kind of informed discussion and critical reflection that could lead to beneficial social change.
Unfortunately not enough people realized this three years ago, and most still don't.
"One account had approximately 200,000 comment karma and only a few hundred post karma. This is the person Reddit wants to keep. This type of guy (the most aggressive users still seem to be guys) will not get his account banned."
Bullshit, they banned my account and it was a higher comment karma number than this. The bans made no sense. On top of that they are using pixel (or something similar) so I made a new account it was insta-banned. I said "fuck it" and havent been back even as an offline user.
thier revenue depends google and open AI SCRAPING the comment seciton and posts. as of recently thier bot traffic/scraping drop so much that reddit is trying to force lurkers to login now, so they do everything disincentivize any lurking at all. All this lurking was cause by thier original ban/purges too.
Reddit argues that its recent enforcement actions, banning large numbers of users who claim to have done nothing wrong, are efforts to improve platform “integrity,” stop manipulation and remove inauthentic activity.
And yet they banned me because I lost it over someone posting a picture showing animal abuse.
How did the picture even get past their mods?
Fucking cunts at Reddit.
I really miss pre-2021 or so Reddit. Hard to believe what it’s devolved into how.
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