I’ve always interpreted that show with Marshall as the main character. He goes through the most growth and also has the most altruistic intentions throughout. I see it as a demonstration that your friends and loved ones can be holding you back. Marshall deserved better than that friend group and he rarely if ever sacrifices his morals for the others.

I loved watching that show, but the premise is a bit off. "Hey kids, let me tell you about all the chicks I banged before your mom."

This is kind of how I feel about Friends too. It gets hated on for very valid reasons. But I will always remember being a teen watching the episode where Rachel and Monica have 1 condom left in the apartment and compete over who gets it. Then Monica goes to tell Chandler (I think?) that they can’t have sex because Rachel won the condom. He whines a bit, but she holds her ground. It’s one of the earliest pieces of media I remember watching that emphasized the importance of safe sex.

I love that show. It’s just… fun.

I love HIMYM, but it does indeed have a lot of issues. I did a rewatch and some things were painful to watch I have to admit. It will nonetheless have a special place always in my heart.

The best it has are probably the songs. Neil Patrick Harris is so talented.

I'm with you, I love that show. I liked friends too. I love trashy TV, it's like frozen pizza, hits the spot.

And The Postman.

But I tend to like post-apocalyptic movies anyway.

Iirc most of the press was just "this cost waaaaay too much to make" rather than "its a bad movie"

Thanks for reminding me I still need to actually watch it, though. And ive got a few hours to kill.

The Stunt show at Universal Studios was really cool tho

Waterworld, Sahara, and John Carter are all amazing movies that BOMBED... but by what metric? Tons of money in production and/or inept expensive marketing and it didn't make it back.

That's all. It wasn't a "market success." But I'm glad they're a part of culture.

Sahara is the Uncharted movie we deserved. I wish we got more Clive Cussler movies. One of my favorite films.

John Carter is the reason I will never properly pronounce "Virginia" again.

Waterworld's stunt show is incredible and the world building was awesome.

Yes, which reminds me of another hated movie I love: The Cable Guy aka Cabo Goobla:

"Dry land is not a myth. I've seen it." Kevin Costner. Waterworld. I don't know what the big fuss is about. I saw that movie nine times. It rules!

- Chip Douglas

So much so that I'm always surprised when they get the quote wrong in Waterworld itself! 😅

Especially back in the day. It was a major action movie event.

I kind of feel the same way about Cutthroat Island. It was a massive failure, but the production value was great and I thought it was a fun action flick.

Side Note: Waterworld is one of the few movies I recommend NOT watching the extended cut. The scenes are very low quality and feel like a TV production compared to the rest of the theatrical cut scenes.

It's mad max on the water, what's not to love? Now postman on the other hand...

I watched that movie when I was a kid and genuinely liked it. (I do still have really broad taste, the question can be answered for me with “most media, apparently”)

It has a special place in my heart as one of a few dozen vhs we had that I could watch with no restrictions. (One of the banned movies was A clear and Present Danger, and I still don't know why because I can’t stay awake through it because its boring. Another was Pulp Fiction. Maybe the first was a ruse!)

Is it a good movie? Idk. But smeat is still funny to me in ways that probably would have hit the same if I’d watched it today for the first time, so..

Lol the "deevolution" ray that turns a dude into a monke. 😂

That movie was bizarre and wild. I like it too. I firmly file it under "Task failed successfully." Lol

I have to say I enjoy that movie a lot too. I'm not denying that it's a terrible movie, but it's terrible in a very watchable and enjoyable way.

It was silly like a cartoon. It was deeply flawed on nearly every critical metric but it made us laugh, with it or at it.

It's just a fun movie. I don't know if I only think that because I grew up with it though.

I'd watch Bob Hoskins read the phone book.

The old Super Mario Bros movie is a fantastic B scifi movie, it’s just a terrible Mario Bros movie. I still love it!

Really, a lot of the prequel hate comes from them taking such a huge step down from the OT. In 1999, The Phantom Menace was the first major Star Wars film in 16 years; it wasn't just a cool new thing, it was a cultural event. People expected great things.

Obviously it failed at that. Not once, but twice. Revenge of the Sith barely even got a chance.

And so the backlash was brutal. While the critique wasn't unfair in its points, it also came from a perspective of starkly emotional disappointment. People say the prequels are looked at more fondly now due to 'nostalgia', but mostly I think it's that the emotional pain has faded and we can analyze them more objectively as flawed, but ultimately solid films rather than 'disasters'.

It may be that one day the sequels will be more coldly studied as well, with more focus placed on the issues produced by cycling directorship and management pressures... but I also think even a coldly analytical appraisal of them will still come up as "hollow and emotionless".

I've never understood the hate for the prequels. I thought The Phantom Menace was kind of boring and I've never successfully removed Jar Jar's voice from my head, but I straight up liked Attack of The Clones and Revenge of The Sith.

The sequels have a bipolar plot, it gives you whiplash seeing the tonal shift and direction change each movie goes through.

The prequels are definitely flawed (George, how much political mumbo jumbo do you really think people want to see in their space wizard drama?) but they have a more or less coherent story. You can see how A>B>C and it makes sense.

Plus, the absolute memefest that the prequels turned into has helped a ton.

The prequels are the only Star Wars movies that I regularly rewatch. The other 6 are never on at our house, and the spin off movies are completely ignored.

I have a friend, whom I typically respect, who surprised me with that hot take one day. He had similar things to say about Creed and Taylor Swift.

Hes also been known to cheat at DnD, though. I love the guy but...

The big problem, at least to me, is that they were massively overplayed on the radio and I grew tired of hearing the same song over and over again.

Now hearing them again after a long break, I can recognize that they made some decent - not great, but still decent songs.

Nickelback, Daughtry, i don't get what the hate tbh.

We sing along because it was forced on us 😭 a few songs are ok I guess, they're like the junk food of music, small doses.

It’s the ultimate “pop” rock. It really works for a lot of people but anyone who doesn’t like formulaic music designed with the broadest appeal will absolutely dislike it.

I don't mind their one song. But that's the thing, they only have one song. (They all sound the same.)

I can't bring myself to hate Nickelback because they gave us one of the greatest meme templates in meme history.

I am not ashamed to admit that I have their first album, and it's a solid one with quite a few solid tracks on it. However, I always hated that song, which by far became the most popular one.

I don't know much about their later stuff, though.

All Star is on my hate list because I've heard it too many times at this point. It joins

• Don't Stop Believing by Journey
• Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen
• Nevermind by Nirvana
• A few Red Hot Chili Peppers songs

That's one of those shows that I can't even remember anymore because Abridged just overwrote it in my brain.

I watched it fresh back in the day and I liked it too.

The one thing that really gets me is that in a world that loves gaming, they didn’t have a regulating body or at least Gamers’ Nexus to look over the headset and say, “this could fucking kill someone.” I get that it would kill the entire franchise but I feel like they could have tried harder.

Isn't it just a what if hack sign was a harem anime?

Honestly i really liked the relationships in it. The premise is really good too. I get why the later seasons just didnt deliver the same though.

I could never tell you why, but the hate SAO gets is really obxious and is the reason why I hate the anime community