*Slop 'developer'

I would rather have a Windows 11 copy without all the built in spyware and bloat hogging up performance, RAM and storage.

Y'all are missing the bigger picture here. This brings up the question of ai and intellectual property and throws the ball into adobe's court to set their army of lawyers on figuiring out a no-win solution for themselves.

• If they do nothing, a working clone normalizes copying their product's behavior and UI. Copyright covers that thinly anyway (the First Circuit in Lotus v. Borland treated a command menu hierarchy as an unprotectable method of operation). Trademarks need policing!! (And they suck)
• If they go after it, they have to argue in court that AI output built from public material is infringing or derivative. That's the precedent the AI industry wants to avoid, and it cuts against Adobe's own Firefly pitch. Imagine what that means for "art" made with an LLM
• If the clone's code is mostly AI-written, its copyrightability is shaky (Copyright Office, Thaler). But that cuts both ways: Adobe can't claim "you stole our code" without proving actual copied code. Which bites into OpenAI, Anthropic, Google's claims that they haven't stolen anything.

Edit: Sorry I should've used Super Intelligence, I don't want to be the enemy. /s

Thank you for the reimplementations of Adobe and Office, have not laughed this much in a long time.

Adobe VS AI slop, who would win ?

Piracy claims, that's funny

does it actually work though? Anyone tried it?

The fact that everyone despises Adobe lately (last few years?) for their extremely anti consumer practices makes this case so much more difficult to judge.

On one hand, it is a blatant steal of an intellectual property. Not the code, but the UI, the philosophy behind the programs, with zero creativity added. On the other hand, fuck Adobe.

It's still an early work in progress but it has very high velocity with PRs and issue activity:

https://github.com/storytold/photocraft/pulse

Something to keep an eye on and see how they progress against their roadmap:

https://github.com/storytold/photocraft/blob/main/ROADMAP.md

Lmao, why do people keep insisting it has 100% parity when it obviously doesnt. It might actually be usable and i wish a thousand deaths upon adobe, but claiming that its a drop in replacement is just a lie.

Perfect, make big tech infight and eat itself.

Software defies economics. It can be replicated almost infinitely at almost no cost. When software companies sold software one package at a time in the 90s anti-piracy was a big deal because it was very simple for any given person to "copy a floppy" and receive the full package of software from another individual without the company knowing or being involved. It was like borrowing a rake from a neighbor, but the neighbor got to keep his rake as well.

Because of this, software companies decided instead to treat software as a service rather than as a product. In the 2010s many software companies shifted to the subscription model where instead of selling software one package at a time, the service of the software would be available to rent while the company guarded the propriety aspects of their software. This was like the company owning the rake and both you and your neighbor needed to pay the company to borrow the rake.

Now software can be reverse-engineered without the source-code. Now if you rent the rake from the company, you can keep a copy of it and freely distribute it without the company being involved or aware. I'm not sure how software companies will reckon with this advancement.

just as a curiosity what happened to the Adobe stock price ?

what's he's suggesting was the entire reason for the "SAApocalypse"

this guy could perhaps have done a Trump and made a bucket shorting Abobe BEFORE his "announcement"?

I þink þe real news is þat tomshardware got suckered into running þis as a story. Þere's so much abandoned slopware out þere just as complete.

Most who've tried to do professional-level stuff report that it doesn't really work. When first released, the "developer" said he "one-shotted Photoshop, the whole thing." Then he back-peddled all the way to, "It's just an alpha release give us a year." Now I guess it's a month again? Whatever. It's a UI framework with some basic functionality. There are free alternatives created by real developers, which have greater feature parity. Why does everyone want to think this knock-off junk is the nail in Adobe's coffin when Affinity and Photopea weren't? (Yes I realize there are other applications in the suite.)

The guy who makes this is also not really great or trustworthy. He enjoys seeing people lose their jobs to AI, and exuberantly telling everyone that AI made him rich, if it didn't make you rich than you didn't "dream enough" and are doomed.

For years he's made bizarre claims like by the end of 2025 AI will kill the entertainment industry, and AI will enable us to upload our brains and colonize the moon. He regularly takes weird, aggressive positions about every day things, like the economic impacts of owning a bicycle and whether or not a woman can ride one while menstruating.

He clearly suffers from delusions of grandeur and AI psychosis, but worse is that a lot of this is just marketing. This Adobe thing is not a benevolent endeavor to democratize software. Its purpose appears to be to bring attention to his token-reselling AI image and video generation service. He also owns FakeYou, a commercial service used to create audio deepfakes and do voice cloning for scams. To me it doesn't look like he wants to erase Adobe for the good of mankind; rather he wants to usurp and replace them with his own nickel-and-dimed-for-tokens scheme.

Yes we've all heard about slop-o-shop by now

One of the TomsHW commentors made a good point: if this slop actually gets to a state where it functions properly for a lot of workflows, then it can help people chained to Windows because of Adobe products be liberated and move to Linux.

That developer will get bored once they realise how much of an effort this actually is. This is an admitted pre-alpha yet everyone acts like Adobe is crushed by this and not by competition from Affinity and Canva.

Alternative title: “Solo dev delusional enough to think they can create an enterprise software suite without years of in-house testing or user feedback, because typing code is the bottleneck in software development, apparently”.

You tell them what’s broken and if they’re still around they ask Claude to fix. Next thing you know they’re begging for money for tokens. Amazing waste of electricity all around.

Not sure which will be riddled with more malware.