Trump administration says US ‘doesn’t need’ ICC after accusing court of unfairly targeting Americans for war crime charges

The United States imposed sanctions on the international criminal court (ICC), its latest escalation against an entity the Trump administration has accused of politicization and unfairly targeting Americans for war crime charges.

The ICC accused Donald Trump’s officials of attempting to “obstruct the course of justice” after “an assault” on the international legal order.

Just hours after a former ICC judge was awarded the Nobel Peace prize, Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, announced in a video that the US would move to impose financial sanctions.

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[–] 62 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child)

Just more naked demonstration of the need for digital sovereignty.

In payment systems, in emails, in data storage, in cloud, in desktop software, in encryption, messaging, etc. If you have a dependency with any American company, you are not sovereign.

This is not easy, but if you are not already taking steps forward you are behind.

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  • [–] 46 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (11 children)

    "The ICC has never indicted or even issued an arrest warrant for a US citizen". They have, however, issued warrants for Russian war crimes in Ukraine. All that needs to be said

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  • [–] -2 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

    You think trump is in putins pocket more than netanyahu's, lmao?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

    Definitely not just Russians, I somehow deleted the line that listed Netanyahu also. Trump also tends to go with whoever he talked to last, so it just depends who was in his mind when he decided the ICC had to go. His memory is like a goldfish.

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  • [+] -8 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    I don't think Kamala would have done anything different. The US is notoriously not a signatory to the ICC and has been bending over backwards for Israel before trump came around.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Love that both sides energy you have going to normalize this shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Love that you're complaining about facts.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 weeks ago

    What facts? I responded to an opinion, a bad opinion that normalizes this shit.

    Remember, none of this is normal, and the corpo democrats are obsessed with maintaining norms. If that doesn't tell you how things would be different, then you're a lost cause.

    I don't like the corpo dems, but they are not outright fascists.

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  • [–] 74 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Gee, I can't imagine why the ICC would target so many US citizens for war crimes...

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  • [–] 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    It's targeted zero US citizens.

    Lots of Russians and a very prominent Israeli, but no US citizens.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 weeks ago*

    not advocating for the US ever, but in the interests of accuracy..

    Washington has denounced the ICC over arrest warrants issued for Israeli officials including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and a past investigation into actions of US soldiers in Afghanistan, which the ICC has since closed. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/1821076/us-imposes-sanctions-on-international-criminal-court-hours-after-former-judge-wins-nobel

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    Then every member state of the ICC (almost the entire world) should impose sanctions on the US in return. Enough is enough.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 weeks ago

    Terrorist country.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 weeks ago

    Circling the drain. FFS.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I wonder what'll happen when Trumps term ends and he tries to leave the U.S.

    Unless the U.S. deal with them first.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago

    Pretty much an admission that the American Administration is the Mob.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 weeks ago

    All the ICC has to do is to issue international arrest warrants, with extradition and exfiltration permit avowed, for whichever executives apply the sanctions.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 weeks ago

    We know who the criminal is

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago

    Jesus H. Christ.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    They are afraid in the US government. Afraid is good.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Lucifer H Satan on a ringpop!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    All because Donny didn’t get the Nobel peace prize…back to back FIFA peace prize winner!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    "You don't start nothing, there won't be nothing!"

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Starting next April, it will be prohibited for any US citizens, companies, or organizations to conduct business with the ICC. Organizations outside the US that collaborate with the court also face the threat of sanctions.

    One possible consequence is that ICC staff salaries can no longer be paid. "The ICC holds its bank account with ABN Amro," says De Hoon. "It is highly questionable whether the bank can circumvent these sanctions."

    Once the sanctions take effect, staff members will no longer be able to use US-made software. For instance, they would be unable to send emails to one another via Microsoft, and documents—such as investigative materials—could not be stored on US servers.

    Previous sanctions imposed by the US government applied only to individual prosecutors and judges; now, the court itself is being targeted as an institution. The ICC had already begun migrating its IT systems in response to those earlier sanctions, but the progress of this process remains unclear. "These systems are so complex that I wonder if it can be done by April," says De Hoon. International organizations

    translated from: https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2634366-amerikaanse-sancties-mokerslag-voor-internationaal-strafhof-wat-doet-nederland

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    Israel will be pleased.

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    [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    What class of people hate criminal courts, if you need a clue it starts with the letter criminals.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago*

    The US has had standing orders to attack the Netherlands to exfiltrate any US citizen that stands before the International Criminal Court since 2002 (the Hague invasion act). Obama did not overturn it, Biden did not overturn it.

    You are still correct, of course. Obama is a war criminal, every Democrat and Republican is culpable for war crimes, and the entire US state-industrial complex is built on committing war crimes. It has been since before the US seceded.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    time for EU independence. If google, microsoft, amazon, visa/mastercard & co were ordered to stop operations in Europe, it would be a major disaster

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  • Shouldn't that be the other way around?

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