The growing relationship between Alberta separatists and US political actors demands a response

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[–] 39 points 1 month ago (9 children)
  • [–] [S] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Danielle Smith and Scott Moe love spamming the not withstanding clause ability.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The not withstanding clause used to be so radioactive that any politician using it would be gone the next day.

    Now that it's been unsealed and the result was about 2 weeks of news coverage and then nothing, expect to see it a lot more

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Technically, it's sedition

    Treason requires violent action.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 month ago

    Social cons couldn’t win elections so they decided to break up Canada with Trump.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    The first response should be to ban entry of any American citizen, no matter what their position in government, who aids and abets separatists, seizing any and all assets they hold in Canada in the process.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This article is extremely lazy which almost makes it more alarming. It's a thinly veiled threat that activities that aren't currently illegal ought to be, and they ought to be treated as seriously as the crime of treason. In case you have forgotten, the military could execute someone for treason up until 1999, whereas capital punishment for civilians was abolished in 1976.

    The "crimes" discussed in the article are:

    • separatists meeting with US political operatives to discuss possible future agreements/arrangements should independence be achieved
    • the involvement of US political operatives in the pro-separation campaigns within canada

    The author says:

    For Canadian separatists, they are free to express views outside the mainstream—an Albertan has the right to argue that Canada should be dismembered. They can argue that their territory would be better off joining the US. They are even free to generate enthusiasm among foreign powers abroad for their project. They are not, however, free to solicit support for their campaigns here at home.

    Except that they are. To meet the bar of Political Interference for a Foreign Entity, the conduct would have to be

    surreptitious or deceptive conduct with the intent to influence a political or governmental process, educational governance, the performance of a duty in relation to such a process or such governance or the exercise of a democratic right in Canada.

    It's not enough to work with, or for, a foreign government to influence the outcome of an election, they must do so surreptitiously or deceptively.

    If Canadians are now actively soliciting foreign involvement in a debate about the future of the country, that is an extremely disturbing new turn. It crosses a bright red line as a betrayal of our democracy.

    It feels like the author hasn't read the federal government's own page on foreign influence:

    Foreign influence can take many forms. It may involve advocacy, communications, or engagement with public office holders. In many cases, such activities are legitimate, lawful, and transparent, and are a part of normal international relations.

    When citizens of other countries reach out to Canada, the UN to support their quest for independence, it is seen as our duty to assist them. But when canadians do the same, it's treason. Because... reasons?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    When citizens of other countries reach out to Canada, the UN to support their quest for independence, it is seen as our duty to assist them. But when canadians do the same, it’s treason. Because… reasons?

    Excellently highlighted:

    it isn't the helping of people in other countries seeking independence .. which decides whether it is treason or uprightness to be helping them,

    rather, it is how honestly-oppressed are they within their country?

    Are they subject to real oppression?

    Help them.

    Are they machiavellian narcissist sociopaths trying to carve up the country they inhabit for their own "greatness"?

    Intentionally don't lift a finger to be involved with them.

    Uprightness-of-cause is independent of whether they are seeking independence.

    A perpendicular dimension to consider.

    and until we are consistently considering that dimension independently, then we are systematically misjudging such questions, normally.

    🙏

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  • Only if Canada gets to divvy up the fuckery down here, too. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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