First, just to be pedantic, EVs did exist first. They go all the way back to the early 1800s. But battery technology didn't advance enough to make them a good option until recently, so your point remains.

I fully agree with you that the only thing keeping gasoline going is inertia. There have been parodies applying the same logic to other fields, like the gas-powered phone.

There's a reason why 80%+ of EV owners say they'll never go back, and a good chunk of the remainder are just waiting on the field to mature a bit.

EVs still use brake pads. lol

Also electric cars, gas, and steam has a bit of a format war in the 1890’s-1920’s or so, and people really did make a lot of these points back then. Unreliable and sometimes unsafe chargers (basically due to people not understanding electrical engineering as well as we do now) were a big part of why gasoline won out

"those fluid is VERY flammable, it's insane people wanted to sit above one"

"it stink when it's running."

Ha, I never thought of it that way but yes, that tracks perfectly. The "inconveniences" of EVs aren't worse than gas cars, it's just that the gas car inconveniences are considered "normal" right now.

The saddest part is that EVs were invented first, but it was easier to tanker fuel everywhere, rather than building out the electric grid in low-density areas.

Also, that place is disgusting and you have to step over the rotting corpse of 600 soft drinks poured out next to the pump, then touch a handle which is visibly soiled and often sticky, and then you will probably smell like gas for at least the next 20 minutes.

Wait, since when did electric cars stop having brakes?

I fully agree with you, but you should check out the rest off this thread. I have someone who literally said:

I’m not willing to compromise on my road trip plans.

I'm unwilling to plan out two 20 minute stops in my day long road trip that happens maybe once or twice a year in order to have the lowest maintenance lowest fuel cost vehicle I have ever owned. Not to mention the other two options if you seriously cannot do it. People are so carbrained/gas brained I just can't even. I will never go back to owning an ICE vehicle, literally why would you?

Yep, though that depends on destination in some regions. When my partner and I planned our trip to their parents' place, what's normally a 9 hour drive turned into a 13 hour one because we ended up having to charge up to 100% from 5% for one of the intervals due to lack of CCS stations, which was nearly a 60-70 minute charge each way.

That may have changed in the intervening year, and I'd love to have that drive only extended ~1hr instead because we can do ~15% -> 80% charging intervals instead.

Good thing I wrote up two other options if it doesn't work for you. It works perfectly fine on our car trips.

okay so a few times a year your meal isn’t exactly when you want to eat. or you can’t eat exactly what you want to eat.

i’ll take that over having to go to a gas station weekly to fill up and pay $50 for the privilege.

Not OP, but nearly every apartment complex I've ever been to has absolutely 0 electricity to a surface lot, and very limited/restricted access in a garage. And no apartment managers are going to change that unless there's money to be made from it.

Fortunately, newer buildings are now including some public charging stations, presumably getting a portion of the sales.

Theres no external outlets just out in the parking lot in my complex. You'd have to run an extension cord out a door or window all the time, which would leave them cracked, and I live on the third floor

More progress really needs to be made on infrastructure for a lot, probably the majority of apartment complex dwellers

I have been an EV owner since 2018 and I have never had a “level 2” charger installed. I’ve been fine with just plugging into the wall. Now, granted, my cars have been 80-125 mile range vehicles. But it’s been fine.

Which part of "apartment complex" did you misunderstand

Then you have where my apt had another company put in and manage the charges but they charge 15 cents more a kw then the fast charger around the corner.

I don't mind sitting every so often in the morning drinking some tea while charging but it would be nice if it's faster

Considering how inexpensive it is to put in a 30A, 50A, or 60A circuit

I have a 50A circuit that i just installed. And previously installed a 30A circuit at my last house. It's not inexpensive. A 50A breaker and 30 feet of 6/2 Romex with ground costs $240. Then add in a 40A capable Grizzl-E Classic for another $299 and you're on your way to $600.

If you're like me, you also buy conduit for the wiring in the garage to keep it dry/protected and a receptacle rather than hardwiring to allow for a little more flexibility.

Easy, yes. Cheap, no.

I'll let my friends living in apartments know they can run an extension cord from the 5th floor then lol, I'm sure there's nothing unsafe about that.

Daily mileage isn't the only factor either. I'm not sure why I would pay 30k for a used EV if it costs almost the same to charge per 100km as a diesel car worth under 2k takes to refuel per 100 km but takes much more time to do so. EVs start making more sense for people in apartments when public fast charging is nearly free, like charging at home is.

So like, out my door and into the parking lot?

I'm very pro ev, but getting apartments to have charging stations is a big step forward we need to take to encourage adoption

You live somewhere that allows randoms to lay trip hazards across the pavement?