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[–] 32 points 1 month ago (1 child)

CDs are BOOMING? Quick! STOP making Them!

-The BRILLIANT minds at Sony!

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Everyone in this thread completely misses thr point of media like this: you own it, you can sell or trade it later, and the community building aspect is really fun. You dont get any of that with files.

    Same with games. Look at the 2and hand market. Growing up, everything i got was 2nd hand. Sad that poorer folks won't have that anymore.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    You do get most of those with files : owning it, trading it, and you can build a community around file sharing. The problem is not in the file concept but in the capitalistic ecosystem built on top of it, where they try to prevent you from easily accessing or using the files.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I can see that viewpoint. The issue there is of the ~40 IRL people I know and regularly talk to, not a single one of them has a clue what you just said. Normie's understand "CD have media. CD go in player and worky".

    Files are great for us super nerds. But here's the issue. Now you have a storage medium that then needs to be plugged into a PC of some sort, now you have an os of some sort and possibly internet on said device, Now you need a media player, now you need a DAC to send it to your stereo/headphones etc.

    For me, CD go in and worky is peak.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Good point, CD are easier to use. But to be honest, people around me all know how to install a program or put mp3 in the music folder, from my grandparents to my younger brother, and they're not nerds. I can see how it could be a problem if there was a little less tech literacy though.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Its also a pretty high quality version as well. Streaming gives you lossy mp3, you can make a decent flac out of a CD. Not 24 bit, but much much better than streaming. Oh yeah and I own it forever.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Streaming also only works with solid internet connections.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    the community building aspect is really fun. You dont get any of that with files.

    Back in the day I was huge into music communities on Soulseek. Files can build just as much community, just saying.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Sure but theyre a lot more underground, and illegal if your ISP sees what youre doing, so people are scared of that.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Might be people are not dumb and will go back to cd and dvd to escape the slop from subscription services.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    interesting to see cds booming after how much it failed cause of the crap drm. i guess its realitely easy to get a player, and it doesnt take up too much space per disc, and you get 1411kbit/s.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Nice, but I just hope this doesn't do to CDs what happened to vinyl records in the 2010s. If in 5 years from now I go to a record store and see CDs going for upwards of $40, I'm just gonna kill myself right then and there.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    If CD quality is less than ideal, is there a world where we sell like... Game cartridge sized USB drives with lossless audio files instead? Wouldn't it be cool to have a new form factor that allows for the feeling of physical ownership but is modern and more universal.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    CDs are considered lossless.

    "Lossy" and "lossless" are descriptors applied to data compression systems. So no one referred to CDs as "lossless" until MP3 (which is lossy) became popular, because there was nothing to contrast it with. CDs are not compressed at all.

    If you buy music on BandCamp, FLAC (lossless) is often (always?) one of the download format options. FLAC is decompressed into a bitstream that matches the original exactly. You can put those files wherever you like.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    I don’t miss carrying around or worrying about having stolen my cd collection, so smaller definitely would be better imo. I really liked the size of mini discs but they were too thick. Maybe about a quarter of that size and thinner cartridges made with solid state technology, made bigger than current tech allows in exchange for longer lifespans.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    It sounds like by "quality" you are talking about the physical fragility of the CD. True, a more modern format might be nice, with a bump to 24 bit depth. I would want something a little more collectible than a thumb drive though.

    I say this as an avid CD buyer who rips full quality to a Plex server. Also download from Bandcamp.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    In the late 90 I was the one buying those vinyls you didn't want anymore for a few bucks, and I still hage them.

    In the past 15 years I've been adding hundreds of your old CDs to my collection, plus a couple of tapes.

    I get my digital album from bandcamp and download the flac version.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    ITT: lemmings hate CDs.

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    [–] 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Sweet, I love it. Best form of physical media next to the record, but records have gotten damn expensive. Keep it goin!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I pulled out the CD Burner and we're gonna buy a pack of CDs next time the kids are here so I can show my youngest the ancient technology she heard about 😂 she's got a CD player she jams with all the time, obsessed with the damn thing, so it'll be fun to show her how we used to do it. Her jaw dropped when I told her about the books of burned CDs we had, all downloaded from Napster and limewire til torrents finally came around big time and we could get discographies at a time.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    What? Optical discs are a horrible storage medium. One slight scratch on the film and the whole thing can be ruined.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    Hard drives are a horrible medium. One drop and all your data is gone 😉. Discs are actually superior for data longevity if youre really hardcore. I dont use them for that myself.

    And if they get scratched you resurface. Some of y'all didnt grow up with discs or didnt take care of them. Unless you mean the top film, which is valid, but ive never once had that issue. Unless youre knifing the tops of your discs

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I did specify the film when I talked about scratches. I grew up with CDs and had plenty that were ruined by a scratch on the film, often from being dropped while in a CD player or accidentally left out.

    Optical discs are not a superior form for long term storage by any stretch of the imagination. Most consumer CDs only last 5-20 years. The film can start delaminating if they're not stored in ideal conditions.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I have CDs that are 30-40 years old and play just fine. CD-Rs may have more issues (though all my 20-year old burned discs still play), but commercial discs can last a long time if you keep them in a case of some kind and don't leave them in humid conditions. They probably won't last centuries, but I expect most of my CDs will probably outlive me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    If you scratch the topside you're done

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    In handling thousands of CDs in my life I never once have scratched the top. Are you offroading a dirtbike while jamming to limp bizkit on your portacd or what?!

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  • I learned it when a guy I knew had his car broken I to and they tried to take finger prints off the top and they took they digital silver shit leaving a clear disk...

    And when I was a teen I definitely put CDs upside down when being too lazy to put them back in the case, thinking it wouldn't scratch the CD. I was incorrect...

    I do have multiple limp Bizkit CDs that are over 25 years in my possession.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago

    Thank God there are dumbasse's willing to spend money on dumbassery!

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