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[–] 137 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

It’s only genocide if it happens in the genocide region of France, other wise it’s just sparkling mass murder

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I cant wait till we solve the issues in the middle east. Then we can move on to solving all the rest of the world's problems.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    I think I got the black lung, paw

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Depends on the Department. I work in "Denying dinosaurs genocide by Martians" department.

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  • [–] [S] 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Wow didn't realize I was speaking with a Dinophobic Martionazi. Bold of you to just admit that but I guess being aligned with NASA would give anyone courage. Any other three-letter organizations that you're astroturfing for, hmmmmmm?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    He's wearing the genocide equivalent of gang colors.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    I was never really a big Ben Stiller fan but I have to admit, he made some really funny choices.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    I don't really know much about him. What's the lore?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    That there's more to life than being really really ridiculously good looking.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Just a comedy actor. Not known for stand up or anything. Had some major block buster hits. Again, more cringe humor than anything else. I just think his choice to do zoolander is funny becuase its a dumb role and he pulled it off but forever will be the zoolander guy.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Ahh. Some other people in the thread made it sound like there was drama but sometimes I like when there isn't drama.

    I really enjoyed the Secret Life of Walter Mitty

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago*

    Ben Stiller is a genocide denier

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Everybody stick on the legal definition of genocide, and as a strategy it does make sens. However, their is a political struggle, and not as we may expect. "Genocide" word was first defined by a Jewish jurist during WWII, as such :

    "Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups."

    His works did inspire the UN definition with a more restrictive definition we know today. Raphael Lemkin made a definition that try to prevent inequality, colonialism and oppression that may lead to mass murder. But in preventing hierarchy between people, he made a definition that would make the concept of nationality illegal : every national-state has been made through genocide, according to Lemkin definition.

    Personally, I found that silencing this definition to made a new one that allow nationalism after WWII is antisemitic (and racist oc). But I want to underline that the fascist state of Israel is right to point out the hypocrisies of national-state; this propaganda will work until we will stand against our nations as well as against Israel.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    Ben Stiller is a genocide denier IRL. Pass it on.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (13 children)
  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I stand with the Israeli people and their right to live in peace and safety. At the same time, I don’t agree with all of the Israeli government’s choices on how they are conducting the war. I want the violence to end, and the innocent Palestinian people affected by the humanitarian crisis that has resulted to receive the lifesaving aid they need. And I know that many in Israel share this sentiment.

    He wrote an essay for Time Magazine. It's a short read but... Yeah even calling it a war is troubling, because Palestine doesn't have a military? He says he feels for the innocent Palestinian people, but spends far more ink on bemoaning rising anti-semitism, and never really touches on the massive difference in body counts between the hamas terrorist attack and the genocide that isreal is currently engaged in. He also, of course, doesn't call it a genocide.

    It's like his heart is almost in the right place, but he just can't gather to courage to call a spade a spade. He calls the war in Ukraine a russian invasion, he calls the conflict in Lebanon a pogrom. Why can't he bring himself to call what's happening in Gaza the same? It's literally an isreali invasion and a pogrom. He can't just call for a two-state solution, say he feels for the innocent Palestinians, and wash his hands of the rest.

    The r/jewish reddit thread on his essay is similarly obtuse. it's from 2 years ago, but even then, it was clear as day to any outside observer what was happening. They're so worried about the ghost of anti-semitism that they miss the fact they've become their own genocidal nightmare.

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  • [+] -34 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    He's extremely Jewish? Lol

    I can't back that up, no. Not really.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Most Jews I know are pro-palestine.

    Don't be a bigot.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    That's anecdotal. Polls of American Jews only show a marginal amount believe a genocide is happening while Israeli's are even lower. So you're anecdotal bias doesn't mean you can call people a bigot over truth ....

    https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2026/ap-norc-poll-about-3-in-10-us-adults-believe-israel-has-committed-genocide-against-palestinians/

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    It's very possible to be a bigot with statistics too.

    For example, quoting a survey that says only 30% of Jews think isreal is committing a genocide, while leaving out the fact that 30% of ALL Americans feel that same way.

    So their religion and culture is statistically irrelevant. And the fact that it's being highlighted is the bigotry.

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  • [+] -3 points 1 month ago (4 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Jews are as dumb and evil as your typical American scum

    That's exactly what I'm saying, though I'm less of a dick apparently. They're exactly the same as all other Americans. So pointing out their race is only to push some racist agenda.

    Maybe I can help you connect the dots. See, I said all the Jews I know think it's a genocide. Also, all the non Jews I know think it's a genocide. I don't surround myself with pro-genocide folks.

    I used the same statistics as everyone else, and the same tactic as the bigot I replied to, but I put a positive spin instead of a negative one. And a bunch of y'all told on yourselves by getting mad.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don’t surround myself with pro-genocide folks

    Bruh you live in what's called echo chamber

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Echo chambers are about media consumption, not friend choice.

    You don't have to spend time with horrible people. The only people who want that are the horrible people who realize they won't have any friends otherwise.

    Don't forget the saying: When you sit down for dinner with ten Nazis, eleven Nazis are having dinner.

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  • [+] -24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Fuck... it's a joke making fun of people who don't realize that Israel ≠ all Jews

    Get the stick out of your ass.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    You need to work on your bit. A joke is funny if it is:

    • Unexpected and
    • You should have seen it coming

    Up-front bigotry isn't even a joke. Bigotry only seems like jokes when it's the punch line, because stereotypes take the place of setup for a joke to establish something that you should have seen coming. They take the place of a callback to something said earlier or a reference to shared experience.

    Jokes that rely on the situation of bigotry being expected are difficult and require much more effort or insight than "[identity] lol". In other words: put your ass into your schtick.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (47 children)

    I love the leftists that accuse liberals of denying Israel’s genocide in Gaza (which we don’t) while ignoring Russia genocide of Ukraine and China’s genocide of Uyghurs.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Most leftists aren't tankies, thankyouverymuch.

    But I agree they suck.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    Leftists or tankies? Please specify who sucks.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Very clearly tankies.

    But I can see what causes confusion

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (19 children)

    I don't know what's more bullshit, the fact that you think actual leftists (not Soviet diehards) deny any genocide, or that the majority of the establishment Democrats (liberals) are on the side of Israel.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    Establishment democrats are about three hundred people I’m talking about the eighty million people who vote liberal and who overwhelmingly are against Israel.

    I’m not playing your no true scotsman game about ‘actual leftists’ because I see what leftist spaces look like.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    Why don't you get mad at those three hundred people instead of shouting about how much you hate leftists?

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    No one hates a leftist like another leftist does.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    Your absolutely right. Reading your comments I hate you. 😂

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Oh I’m a liberal I can’t stand leftists.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    My favorite part about dumbass liberals is that they know all the failings of capitalism, but still support it. Fucking morons.

    And before you say it, no, I'm not a tankie and I don't support Russia. A lot of liberals support Israel though.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago* (10 children)

    It’s okay honey.

    Despite communism always turning into an authoritarian hellscape one time it’ll work out.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    Every single time socialism has been tried, capitalism, specifically America, has put its boot on its neck. I'm not saying socialism can't turn to authoritarianism, but it has never even been given a fair chance at any point in history. Meanwhile the failings of capitalism are literally baked into the system, given enough time the wealth and power will always consolidate to the top.

    Also capitalism has killed wayyyyyyy more people worldwide than socialism. The Black Book of Communism is confirmed horseshit. Capitalism always turns to authoritarianism in the long term, you can see it in America right now. Your own criticisms of socialism can be turned on capitalism tenfold.

    There's a reason Albert fucking Einstein, the posterboy for genius, was a socialist. Socialism can turn to evil, capitalism will always turn to evil.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Pure capitalism hasn’t been tried either there’s always too much government regulation that stifles the free hand of the market.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Holy shit you just keep saying stupider and stupider shit. The free market was never free. It was always manipulated by those with large amounts of capital. If a market is being manipulated by the elite it can never be "free". That's a fairytale capitalists told you to make it seem like the system was fair.

    You're also taking a what is literally a conservative/libertarian position. Not even liberals believe in completely unregulated capitalism, yet you want me to believe you're a liberal?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    You’re also taking a what is literally a conservative/libertarian position. Not even liberals believe in completely unregulated capitalism, yet you want me to believe you’re a liberal?

    it's uncanny how many people who are basically conservatives can get unlimited traction on lemmy by bashing tankies without anyone really examining what they are actually saying. this user is a prime example of that

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You want to base a economic model after a cousin fucking physicist.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Einstein isn't the reason I'm a socialist lol. It wasn't even a consideration when becoming one, just one of many examples of geniuses being socialist. You're also downplaying his accomplishments, he revolutionized physics. Cousin fucking was socially acceptable in some places in the 1910's. Our ancestors have probably fucked a cousin at some point too. Its definitely creepy but that doesn't mean he didn't change the way all scientists look at the observable universe. He knew what he was talking about.

    Also with your edgy ass username you're gunna get all holier that thou over creepy ass old world cousin fucking?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Yes, the common man is more leftist than the current media / government. They don't want colonialism, and they do want free healthcare, education, etc.

    The people who are currently in seats are power are a problem, because they perpetuate this right leaning, corporate owned government, you fuckin canoe.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    Who was accused in op's meme?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    What does that have to do with my comment?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    israel is committing genocide against gaza.

    russia is the aggressor, and ukraine are defending themsleves against an invasion

    agree or disagree?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Russia is committing genocide against Ukraine.

    Israel is committing genocide against Palestines.

    China is committing genocide against Uyghurs.

    Explain what the difference is if you disagree with that.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Genocide of Ukraine? Is every war or invasion a genocide? You are definitely watering down the word.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Thankfully Ukraine has prevented most of the genociding that Russia wants to do but in the beginning it was pretty bad. Also the amount of drones that hit residential buildings can be classified as an act of genocide.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Is Ukraine also genociding ethnic Russians?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Is Ukraine doing anything on the list of things that would make it a genocide? No, I didn’t think they were. Go suck putin chode somewhere else.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    What do you think the Azov Nazis were up to in Donbass? Do you think that banning the Russian language (which is many Ukrainians' first language) in Ukraine is a good idea?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    What do you think the Azov Nazis were up to in Donbass?

    They were fighting russian military.

    Do you think that banning the Russian language (which is many Ukrainians’ first language) in Ukraine is a good idea?

    It wasn't banned.

    Try reading something that's not russian propaganda for a change.

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    I dont think your sources proo what you think they do 'An Amnesty International investigation into allegations of execution-style and other deliberate killings by pro-Russian separatists and pro-Kyiv forces has found evidence of isolated incidents attributable to both sides, but not on the scale reported by Russian media and authorities.' Literally the first sentence The only example about ukrainians crimes is the graves of 5 seperatist crimes - an inixdent in which Sergey lavrow claimes 'mass graves' of '400''women'.

    The first article is Form 2023 well after the russian Invasion started (and butcha) and the ban was only in the capital - not a Region with majority russian speaking ukrainians - its fairly obvious why you would want to know if people are ukrainians Ehen you are in a war ...

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