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[–] 62 points 1 month ago

But ... but ... Israel is democracy, friend of USA, ...

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  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Genuinely despicable. Hopefully the courts will strike it down swiftly.

    This is most likely a Right-wing plot to drive division in the Left leading up to elections. Many parties end up polling below the threshold, so in a contentious election they often merge to form larger parties and mutually benefit. If Left wing parties can't form common ground to merge, then the Right stands to gain more seats without having to win more votes.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago

    What division in the left? Literally every "left" party is pro genocide in Israel.

    The actual leftists (communist party and the Arab parties) have a coalition that this apartheid law would break up.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    so much for democracy

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    In an argument recently a Zionist challenged me to name one thing about Israel that was similar to Nazi Germany and I said: The laws are different for Jews than for everyone else.

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    According to their supreme court ruling (which sets their constitutional precedence) only Israeli Jews have the right to self determination, nobody else.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago*

    "Only democracy in the Middle East"

    "Most moral army in the world"

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago*

    Liberal zionists finding the trimming around the ceiling very interesting to look at right now.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    The word 'apartheid' has been thrown about a lot with Israel but it's never quite been accurate as Palestine is another country.

    But this is Apartheid. There is no weaseling around it. It's 100% apartheid. Israel, go fuck yourselves.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    But... that's how South African apartheid worked? The white government tried to represent the black as sovereign states ("Bantustans") and revoked South African citizenship from people who lived there. The rest of the civilised world ignored this idea, particularly since the "independent" states weren't even contiguous areas on a map. Map is below. Compare this to current maps of Palestinian control in the area Israel claims, and you'll find it remarkably similar. The "inspiration" is not even hidden.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Holy shit what a top tier comment thank you!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I’m surprised any time people learn this stuff because it’s been going on at this pace since the 60s.

    I’ve actually personally only ever heard the term Bantustan used as a historical comparison for what’s been happening in Palestine.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    It's literally in the Israeli Constitution that all Jews and only Jews can be are Israeli Nationals (edit: all Jews are per the constitution Israeli nationals, which is why any Jew can just land on the Tel-Aviv airport and ask for and get Israeli nationality).

    Non-Jews in Israel can only be Non-Jewish Israeli Citizens which is something different in that country and has fewer rights than a national (for example, they have to apply if they want to move to live in some places and can be refused).

    So at its very core Israel is and has been from the start an Apartheid state.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago*

    I always took the term "apartheid state" to refer to the way Israel treats Palestinians both in the West Bank, which despite being a separate country is also under military occupation by Israel, and at home within Israeli borders

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    But don't you dare call it apartheid.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    right out of Putins playbook

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    What? This is textbook America lol.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Which political parties have been banned in America?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You only have two parties my friend, I wouldn't talk. They aren't banned by law but what happens when someone starts one up? Please be frank about it.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Would muslin country allow Catholic or Jew party? Reciprocity.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Jordan reserves 9 parlimentary seats for Christians, out if 138. That's 6.5% of seats for a group that makes up 2-3% of the population.

    In Iraq, it's only 5 out of 329, or ~1.6% for a group that makes up 0.3-0.6%

    In Lebanon, christians hold 64 parlimentary seats out of 128, or exactly 50%, despite making up only 31-33% of the population. And the president must be christian.

    In Israel, there are no reserved seats for "Arabs", and they currently hold about 9.1% of seats despite representing 21.7% of the population.

    Fuck off, Nazi.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago*

    Man, Israelis are so FUCKING stupid! Like this is the shit you share with each other with full confidence and don't even bother looking it up? What an idiot!

    "Reciprocity" - as if something (that's completely untrue even) done in a different country means it's ok to be done in another.

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  • [+] -30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    That sounds like a fantastic idea when the opposition is threatening to topple you, please continue

    Edit: Sarcasm, have you ever heard of it?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You do know that the point of a democracy is that it's up to the will of the people to decide who gets toppled politically, not for the party in charge to ban a party that may topple them, right?

    Not that an Arab party would topple any of the leading parties in Israel anyway, but the point still stands.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Not exactly... historically, democracy is a system where random citizen are called at power for a given time, and then face a trial where people may condemn them to death if they did shit (or claim they are heroes if they did good). At least that is how Athena's democracy worked.

    The new democratic claim is that people choose a head, and then the head can do whatever without face any consequences. Choose your tyran.

    US, European countries, Soviet Union and North Korea aren't really democratic systems, even if they claim so.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago

    discrimination now, and when Germany tried to do it with their far right party

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