Someone is going to get bumped up on the 1 tb version... I can't justify the purchase right now.
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IKR, my wishlist is not that long and games in it don't go on sale often but somehow it seems like half of them decided to have a sale this exact weekend lol
I did get a notification for Steam.. that I'm on the waiting list, yay :(
Overall it's a tiny bit underwhelming (not even talking about the price) when you look at all the mixed reviews of the most popular VR titles. I still want to mess around with it, but I guess now I just wait.
If you've never tried VR before its properly exciting, the first few days you feel like this is the future. This is the big leap we've been waiting for since 3D or Physics Engines.
After a few days though moving the table to the side and putting the headset on just seems like more effort than its worth.
You should be excited, but don't be too disappointed that you're missing out.
I feel like this is the experience with most people, either that or immediate nausea/motion sickness.
They see it as a novelty and inconvenience when sitting down and playing a flatscreen title takes much less effort because all of the friction has been virtually eliminated in the last 10+ years.
As someone who has now over 4,000 hours in VR, it is entirely situational to the person. If you're someone who can see themselves getting truly lost in immersive 3D worlds, sweating in them, living in them, tolerating discomfort and things strapped to your body and/or head for a transcendental experience, then it's for you.
Otherwise, the Steam Frame might be a massive waste of money (for you) that'll collect dust on the shelf next to the Apple VR.
It's possible (for most people) to desensitize one's self to motion sickness: the key is to stop immediately as soon as you get the slightest hint of feeling sick. Repeated exposure taken slowly can lead to improvement.
The issue is people try to push through it to the point they feel sick, and in doing so sensitize themselves to VR induced motion sickness. Getting over that is much harder to do.
It's no different from feeling nauseousness from trying to eat something that made you violently ill in the past.
The nice thing about PC VR is that you have more seated experiences like flight and racing sims. But you can also play Alyx seated and all the myriad VR mods of flat games.
I actually have a horror game on Steam developed for the Valve Index (we had several 10 years ago in university). Never was impressed enough back then to actually purchase one for myself (so I also didn't have much playtime). Bad display quality, especially for texts, uncomfortable, stumbling over the cable, ..
That's why I was really looking forward to the Steam Frame for a year now. Barely over an hour of battery life dampened my enthusiasm already :-/
A power bank in your pocket can extend the battery life significantly; it's more comfortable to carry a big battery in your pocket than strapped to your head anyways.
But that's one more cable you have to route through your shirt (which annoys me sensation wise). They always skimp out on batteries.
They've already announced a battery+sound pack (without any release estimate). Until then I bet we'll get several third party suppliers.
Why route it through the shirt if the sensation upsets you? A short cable shouldn't be able to get in your way on the outside (the USB port is at the back). With a power bank in your back pocket it won't be like tethered VR where you can turn around and touch the cable.
If you have a 3D printer you could also do what I've done and print a holster for a power bank. It gives me rear options for pants without back pockets.
Oh wow turns out I was yappin to the capn
Nah, I've never had a VR headset at home, so when it comes to actually playing games I'm a newbie. Though I heard the only really 'good' VR game is Half Life Alyx. Plenty of warnings that if you play that one first, all the other games will feel like crap :-/
Also curious about Blade and Sorcery.
Truly, one hour? I've got Quest 2 and that was up to 2. With the head strap powerbank that doubled very ergonomically (for me at least).
I got lucky it seems.
I signed up almost immediately when it became possible. I got the order link this friday.
Delivery says my Frame is "packaged and waiting for courier pickup".
No-one else I know signed up, so hard to say what supply is like in EU.
I assume today or tomorrow a bunch more people will get the order email, as people miss their 3 day purchasing window and the units go to the next person.
It generally seems they only managed to send ~16% of the emails out on Friday, and none in the weekend. So the window has not started yet for alot of people
My wife ordered the Frame yesterday. 1 TB, EU. Great timing for my birthday.
I got a notification today for a steam machine. Hah.. not even sure why I signed up for that
I was put in the waitlist -.- but thats ok anyway, financially the next months are a lot easier than this one.
I had my polycule and 2 friends submit orders so we had 5 chances at just one. Two actually got the order! Can’t wait to get it in. Y hands soon!!
You're still waiting on an email!?
The one to actually order, yes. I got the reservation one.
Ooohhh haha same
i can't confirm because i'm in the waitlist, but i've heard if you haven't gotten your email, you can try checking the frame store page and be able to order anyway
I unsubscribed from wishlist discount emails last weekend just to avoid getting my hopes up whenever I got a notification. Just now, I got a notification about an email from Steam, and I was 100% sure it's finally the long-awaited purchase email.
You have sold an item on the Community Market
Oh, come on! The listing for some profile background for 5 cents had been sitting there untouched for a year. What are the chances that someone just happens to buy it this exact week?!
The price is fucking wild. I won't touch it for quite some time.
My index is fun, but I hardly ever use it.
Got my steam machine order instead. Guess I'm towards the end of the queue for some reason qq
Who uses qq instead of question marks? I've only ever seen old school cops do that.
It's an old school crying emoticon, though might be more like tears welling (QQ) rather than outright crying (T.T), though the lower case qq does look more like tears streaming rather than welling, except one eye is crying from the inner corner while the other cries from the outer corner.
Q.Q I can understand, qq I cannot.
Yeah, I required a lot of context to figure QQ out back in the day, and even then, I didn't really get why it meant crying. Took me a long time to really wrap my mind around the 2nd gen emoticons and stop trying to figure out the abbreviation, even after I understood the meaning. During that time, I was more likely to use "qq" rather than "QQ", though even today I still see it as a reference to "QQ", just lazier typing.
I remember ICQ fondly, but I guess I'm too young or didn't inhabit the same tech niches you did/do.
To me, ending a typed message with "qq" or "QQ" is for teletype systems that lacked length and special characters, so it helped if you alphanumerically stated that your message was an interrogative, which wound up being "qq," presumably two for certainty it wasn't a typo or a word ending in Q.
E.g. "THERE" could mean "I am there" and "THERE QQ" could mean "Are you there?"
I'm not sure where it came from but I saw it on IRC, around the same time ICQ, msn, and aim were in their heyday.
And that makes sense, I've never used a teletype system and guess that especially the old ones might have had difficulty generating the correct rise in tone to signal a question, especially if it does text to voice on the fly while things are being typed and might already be saying the word that needs to be said differently to imply a question.
Teletype, not text-to-speech.
Oh right, those worked by calling up someone who also had a teletyper who would then handle the speech part of whatever call they were making. I forgot it was a human doing the "translate from typed to spoken and back" and assumed there was a text-to-speech and voice-to-text in the loop.
Just got my order in today - seems like it's moving pretty fast, so it shouldn't be too long
Is this an actual Larry David sketch or are the using unrelated performances?
I canceled order, iam on Linux now🤔
... I exclusively run PCVR on linux. Most of my games surprisingly run better under Linux.
Why?
The setup vid on youtube explicitly mentions using the Steam Machine with the Frame, which runs linux. Apparently streaming only works on Windows at the moment but that has to be temporary if it's meant to work with the Machine.
And the Index has worked on linux for years.
Even the Frame itself runs linux.
Apparently streaming only works on Windows at the moment but that has to be temporary if it’s meant to work with the Machine.
It is only when the Steam Machine is in the default game mode, which uses gamescope. It should work fine(-ish) in desktop mode/KDE Plasma, as well as any typical Linux distro.
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