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[–] 30 points 1 month ago

Cool to see that at least 3 of the English names of these are Native American in origin

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Why is it original names are always better than the changed ones?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    And Winnebago, the "small" one east of Lake Michigan, means "stinky water" in Ojibwe.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    I read all off these with the way I read Japanese lol

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I only knew the one from the edmund fitzgerald song.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I mean, did all the First Nations people share these names? I don't think that's the case, so if by "real names" you mean the First Nations names for them, I think they had multiple names depending on who you asked.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    What about whatever they were called before the people that called them that killed the guys that called it whatever it was called before?

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago*

    Exactly. Not to mention that all names are equally arbitrary (except for onomatopoeia, arguably, but I don't think that's relevant here), so none are more "real" (whatever that means) than any other.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    The indigenous people around Huron named it "the fresh water sea"... bullshit how would they know what non freshwater sea was?

    Im not claiming the indeginois people were ignorant. They were surrounded by freshwater. It was called the lake of many shores...the French called it the freshwater sea. Have some perspective yall

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Probably the giant river that goes all the way to a non freshwater sea?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    People transferred or married into tribes occasionally and there was trade. If you were Huron you probably traded with Iroquois and if you were Fox you probably occasionally traded with Wampanaog and Lenovo which were on the eastern sea board.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Of course, savages couldn't possibly know anything about the world outside their 10km radius. Ass. THEY HAD SURGERY. They had pan-continental trade. THE NAME OF NORTH AMERICA IS TURTLE ISLAND. They fucking know what an ocean is.

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    [–] 15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's pretty cool that 3 out of 5 of the lakes kept their names.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    I'm down with those being the official name! I think that's great!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    My grandma called Superior Gitchi Gumi

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

    The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down Of the big lake, they called Gitche Gumee

    The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead

    When the skies of November turn gloomy

    With a load of iron ore, twenty-six thousand tons more

    Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty

    That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed

    When the gales of November came early

    Gorden Lightfoot The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald https://youtu.be/9vST6hVRj2A

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    She got it from Hiawatha but yeah that's it :)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    is it «ᒋᔑ» or «ᒋᔐ» ᒐᒥ?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I think Gorden got it slightly wrong in the song ( It should be Gami, not Gumee)

    According to the wiki,

    The Ojibwe name for the lake is gichi-gami (in syllabics: ᑭᒋᑲᒥ, pronounced gitchi-gami or kitchi-gami in different dialects),[14] meaning "great sea". Henry Wadsworth Longfellow wrote this name as "Gitche Gumee" in the poem The Song of Hiawatha, as did Gordon Lightfoot in his song "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald"

    But since Gorden's song was so popular a lot of folk assumed Gumee was correct.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Superior

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Doubly, seeing as that's not what I am asking😆.
    TIL ᐅᒋᐺᐊᓂᔑᓈᐯᒃ script differently: (ᑭᒋᑲᒥ) vs (ᒋᔐᒐᒥ) [Inuit]

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Ah I misunderstood, that I have no clue about.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    To this day, there are folks that do NOT use IPA‽

    • Giʒi Gami (ᑭᒋ ᑲᒥ)
    • Eriel Hɵnan (ᐁᕆᐁᓫ ᐦᐅᓇᓐ)¹
    • Miʒi Gami (ᒥᒋ ᑲᒥ)
    • Ontarijoʊ (ᐅᓐᑕᕆᔫ)²
    • Kar-e-njondi (ᑲᕑᐁᓂᔪᓐᑎ)³

    Tell James Vulkelich to get here.
    ¹correct me.🙏75%confidence
    ²ri or rē?
    ³how I figured SotW meant “ri”². 65%conf..
    CX ᐅᒋᐺᐊᓂᔑᓈᐯᒃ

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