Great! So prices going up more now?
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The Houthis and Iran are trying to achieve more this weekend than the entire RNC. Which is not that hard per se, but it's pretty funny.
This seems bad.
Very bad. That pipeline could move up to 7 million barrels a day around the strait, which is about 35% of what passed thru the strait pre-war. It wasn't enough but it did marginally offset sea tanker traffic loss.
More importantly this signals that effectively all gulf production is now on the shutdown list and nobody can bank on it returning or being safely bypassed. The world oil market is now in a permanent 20% supply deficit compared to prewar flows, and we are officially in a 1973 level crisis without a reserve cushion left.
Thank you for the added info.
YIKES.
Yikes is right lol
I've been following these markets closely since Russia did its thing in 2022. Back then the markets freaked our about a supply disruption that didn't fully materialize since the shadow fleet and BRICS nations that didn't care about sanctions mostly kept Russian oil flowing.
This time the market took more of a "have a pint and wait for all this to blow over" approach, since the middle east regularly gets into dustups that can be absorbed by SPR's and global reserves... But they miscalculated just how mentally retarded (I mean that literally, not as a slur) the US and Israeli government is right now. The only reason the markets Haven't fully exploded yet is because China basically stopped importing half of its oil demand almost instantly, which kept western reserves from draining too fast- but they've run out of rope and are now upping refinery runs and opening imports again. The only way out now is demand destruction via sustained crude prices above $120/bbl, which means radical inflation and recession.
I only have an understanding of these things at a high level, so I always appreciate Lemmy nerds filling me in on the details.
Feels like we're already in a recession, though, and have been for some time.
I feel like the market could have waited because it was standard government procedure to use reserves until the crisis is over. The problem now is that the crisis will likely last longer than the reserves.
I won't be surprised if governments fall due to the economic impacts this will cause.
Has China started buying again? I wonder whether they'll go back to pre-war levels. I think they'll go to as low as they can in an attempt to save as much of the import economies their exports depend on.
There's prolly gonna be European slapdown on Ukraine's attacks on Russian refinery capacity. Societies gonna split open over the contradiction between supporting Ukraine against Russia and surviving oil-driven inflation..
Shit's gonna be brilliant. 🥹
And yet watch how we're not going to learn ANYTHING and still go back sucking the teat of fossil fuels once this entirely self made crisis is resolved.
the last chokepoint is the suez canal, if the axis somehow manages to get a hold of it oil has nowhere to go. of course this is a non issue now since it isn't flowing westward, but they'll try to rebuild this pipeline every time they can. we'll start feeling the oil prices for real now, tho.
Saudi idiots though they could escape Iran blockade
huh, just as saudi arabia signs a nuclear power deal with the us. for peaceful purposes, of course https://justpaste.in/news/trump-sets-condition-for-saudi-nuclear-pact/
Saudi Arabia selling cheap oil is a central pillar for the modern industrialized nations in the global north. East Asia and Europe will be most heavily affected. Fancy cars, trucks and planes become worthless without oil to power them.
Given the circumstances China will team up with Saudi-Arabia and Pakistan against the Houthi (China already sells drones to Saudis). Europe might also start its own mission against the Houthi with Saudi-Arabia and the US.
The US might profit from high oil prices, as Saudi Arabia will be one less competitor. In the short term they might stop Diesel exports because of internal shortages, if there is some will to stabilize internal politics remains.
And $200/barrel gas is finally coming.
So much winning.
It is kind of here already actually. The price of the distillates per barrel are that high according to reuters, the post refining usually adds 15% to the cost, but it's at 100% or so now. I need to re-read this article myself.
The brent crude benchmark is dated they say.
I can't find the article on a search engine here despite it being just a few days old. I will update if I find, it's on one of my comments but that is buried. Startpage isn't even trying, I said reuters and they only gave me 1 that was even halfway close from them.
The idiot Arab countries thought they would be able to escape the blockade on oil instead of making a deal, with Iran
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