Didn't care when the arts and humanities were being scraped dry, but suddenly they're all coming out against it now that they're going after the sciences
OpenAI stole research out from under mathematicians' noses and now suddenly all the STEM bros are very hot and bothered
Didn't care when the arts and humanities were being scraped dry, but suddenly they're all coming out against it now that they're going after the sciences
Simply not true.
Exhibit A: I Will Fucking Piledrive You If You Mention AI Again
Nerds ≠ techbros.
One has been publishing research about environmental impact of generative AI datacenters since 2019.
The other has been going on twitter talking about how "chatgpt will replace the artists."
One invents math that can recognize cancer cells.
The other applies it to security cameras for the surveilance state.
In general, the people most critical of AI have been those that trained their own one at home for fun, and knew from beginning how fucking overhyped it is.
"STEM bros"? I didn't know being introverted physics dept guys made you a "bro". I missed out on all of those frat parties I guess.
Wtf is a STEM bro? That's not something I've ever heard of until this post.
Gamers Nexus is posting their data but poisoning it for AI.
There is no such concept as STEM bros. Science community has its own problems but being generally anologous to tech bros or fintech bros is not it. Being very strongly curiousity driven, they may indeed be oblivious to how something fucks up other parts of the society but that is very far removed from trying to abuse technology to gain billions. Not that there isn't an intersection, there is, but not big enough to warrant a generalization. In any case if the issue is billionaires fucking up research for money, they will more often be on your side against the billionaires then not (open science movement was one such reaction). But they would rather free AI from billionaire domination then reject it out right.
remember: the cloud is just somebody else's computer
AI divided us like few things before. Musicians cry out because AI steals their music while using AI generated backdrop animations on their tours and academics use ChatGPT to summarize things but become outraged when their work is fed into the machine. Lets hope tech bro audacity will unite us against them the same way they divided us.
I'm just gonna drop these links here.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2608.02859
Sure, let's just ruin the most challenging and fun pursuit humans have ever engaged in by turning it into a competition of who can find the right prompt and throw the most money at the AI companies.
"STEM" bros? What the fuck are you smoking, OP?
Being against LLMs should mean being against science somehow?
Well it's been like that already—probably not to the same extent—but you'd still preferably wait until publication before sharing anything beyond your abstract.
No not my IP!!!!!
(This is basically a leopards eating face concern.)
What's happening here? I'm out of the loop... Who is Terry Tao? Who didn't care about arts and humanities? Who is destructdisc?
From destroying open source to now open science, god dammit.
Can we keep the well-deserved took-you-long-enoughs for AFTER we deal with the crisis at hand, though?
We need all the help we can get.
If a separate industry to you gets ruined and you see the immediate effect as "i can get those products or services now", you perceive it as a victory.
It's the horrible, competition nature of how we live these days.
No community, only competitors.
this has been a thing well before “ai” - search for a domain in arin or internic or others back in the day, pass on it, and tomorrow hrm it’s no longer available.
That's definitely... an interpretation of things.
For the curious, the problem seems to be that the AI the mathematicians in question were using used their chat logs as training data, and therefore took the same approach they did when confronted with a similar problem.
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