https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/general/rudy-giuliani-seeks-9-11-health-fund-coverage-as-lawyer-links-pneumonia-to-ground-zero-exposure/ar-AA22G8sg

Rudy recently got sick and decided to claim '9/11 disease' benefits.

Rudy hasn't been to one funeral for any of the Ground Zero heroes and rescuers who got sick working the Pit.

News conference at the 4 Seasons, at 5!

This guy is such a pro political operator

That is such an incredibly cynical way of spinning it, even if it was meant to be a compliment.

Edit: Folks, "political operator" is what you call people who are particularly manipulative, conniving, and in it only for themselves. People who "operate" the political machine, with all the bribery, corruption, retaliation, and other dirty tricks that implies. I don't care what the ignorant replies say; it is not a good thing!

I'm surprised Giuliani even gets mentioned any more. The last vestiges of his credibility ran down his face at the whole Four Seasons Total Landscaping debacle, and the least said about the Borat thing the better...

Sounds like there needs to be a lawsuit.

Not that it will bring any peace to your dad’s friend/family, but to hold these people accountable. If they aren’t held responsible it’ll just happen again to the next shmuck.

Thanks for the comment. This really provided some needed framing. My initial reaction to this was, "oh well, what was there to be done? Those first few days and weeks were utter chaos. There were an unknown number of people still alive under the rubble with limited time to get them out. Immediate deaths vs long term deaths, what could have really been done? Ultimately the people are responsible are the ones that took down the towers."

But your comment really reframed things for me. I was thinking of this only from the perspective of rescue workers. And I imagine if they had told the actual first responders about the risk and air quality, most of them would have shrugged, said, "I don't care, I'm here to save lives," and took the risk willingly. But there are two issues with this. First, even if the first responders would still willingly take the risk, more efforts could have been taken to provide more and better PPE for the rescuers. Second, a lot of people didn't actually need to be anywhere near ground zero. All of the office buildings within a dangerous distance should have been evacuated. Companies still need to keep operating, but alternate arrangements could have been made. This was before the era that WFH was really possible for most office workers, but we still could have found a way. For example, we could have set up cubicles on the floors of sports arenas, using them as temporary offices like we use them as temporary shelters during natural disasters. Hell, with all of the money flying around post 9/11, simply writing checks to cover the salaries of everyone under a mandatory office evacuation for a few months would have been a rounding error compared to the hundreds of billions dedicated to defense and military expansion.

Wikipedia suggests 400,000 people were exposed to the dust of 9/11. Let's say this is an underestimate and let's make it a clean million. Let's make a generous assumption and assume those million people were earning on average $50,000 in 2001 dollars, slightly less than the equivalent of $100k today. Let's say we would need to evacuate them for three months while things settle out of the air, the rain washes every surface, and we cleaned, decontaminated, and contained the pollutants. That comes to $12,500 per person, and a total of $12.5 billion. We spent trillions in the post-9/11 years.

Be serious, the whole pedophile clan is still up and ready for another binge, even after tons of evidence have mounted up.

Its one of the worst parts of electing dodgy officials, if later admins tidy up their mess they end up taking the rap themselves while the culprits have no consequences. Imagine the mountain of litigation from abuse of power by the trump admin, but they won't be accountable for it themselves

Deeper water where the bigger fish live

The fact that Jon Stewart of all people has been the one to advocate for first responders on 9/11 to get the care they need is an absolute abomination to whoever was in charge during the events.

A TV personality should not be standing in front of Congress to tell them to help firefighters who assisted during 9/11 that they should get healthcare.

People think the USA is a joke because of Trump. It's been a fucking clown show for well over two decades. If not more. Your country is an international embarrassment on unprecedented levels.

Superpower my ass.

I'm not sure if the first responders comment is specifically around firefighters, but unfortunately their cancer rates are horrendous in that job.

And any damn criminal files on Trump

I mean, how could you not draw that conclusion? An uncontrolled demolition of a 30+ year old building that most likely contained materials that would not be allowed now, coupled with all the items stored in them as well as the jet itself.

To think that “things are fine” right after would be just plain delusional.

Have to change screen names now that you are sure.

being correct sucks, let's fantasize!

Then you’d get Musk and the rest running, too.

Mamdani/Mangione 2032

I get it, but i honestly think that a big reason the establishment didn't come at him harder was that he wasn't a threat to most establishment careers.

If he'd have been US-born, i think they'd have put more effort into coming for his reputation.

I second this, if Trump can wipe his ass with the constitution then fuck it throw it out it worthless. He runs for president I donate, knock doors get as many signatures required to get him elected as president.

We can't even get a woman elected you think an immigrant would ever have a chance?

'Murica is a fundamentally bigoted excuse for a society

The civilised world sneers for good reason

You think they suck now? Wait until Ellison takes over.

why so?