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"Hey can I copy your homework?" "Sure just change it a little so the teacher won't know"

The homework:

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  • [+] 164 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)
  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    i bet none of them would answer the same way if you asked them what a 3rd world country is

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    No chance that more than a fourth of them realize it’s from the Cold War and originally mean nations that were neither in the sphere of Soviet or American interest. They just think it means poor country with brown people

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The Soviets, eastern Europeans, CHYNA, Cuba and North Korea are 2nd world. Odd that they would omit those countries from their rhetoric ..

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well, as the Warsaw pact doesn't exist anymore, there are no second world countries.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The countries still exist .. in one form or another

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    New? This has been used for decades.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Depends where you look. I've heard it from white nationalists in cesspits like reddit for the past 15 years.

    I think your exposure level will come down to whether your demographic is more likely to be on the delivery or receiving end of racism in your region.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I don't know if its a common term among white fascists but I can tell you that I have personally seen nonwhite individuals described this way online and even in real life in more backwards parts of North America. This was more than 10 years ago.

    Maybe its only becoming mainstream now. But racists have been talking like this for a long time. You may not be the kind of person they target so it would be hard for you to know.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Sure bro, I hear what you're saying. I'm just saying that I've heard regressive folk refer to groups of people as third worlders since before 2015. Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it hasn't been said (especially if its not a phrase that would typically be directed at you with contempt).

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    "Third world" has been code for poor brown people basically since the designations were first made during the cold war.

    Do you mean you've never heard the term at all, or just this very specific usage in this very specific instance?

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It means the same thing, there's just an extra two letters added to the end. Were you shocked every time you first saw a cat with a color you hadn't seen before, too?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    They aren't the same thing. "Third worlder" can be applied to specific individuals that are from third world countries and, I suspect, will be applied to people not actually from the third world anyway.

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  • [–] 87 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    “Talking Points Memo” isn’t just a website. The term comes from a Republican strategy to send out a memo to the party explaining what the message is that party leadership wants hammered on public media this week. It includes a list of “talking points” with premade example quotes.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Way back when the Daily Show used to cut together clips of GOP talking heads pivoting to their talking points in interviews, regardless of the question being asked. It was surreal. And the Left never found a way to counter it, which is why they still do it today.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I remember that as far back as early aughts. Why isn't there a counter? Granted, we've known about Fox News being propaganda but nobody seems to do anything about that, either.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    because the counter is an actually competent news media free from the control of private interests who would actually push back against the bullshit when it's being peddled, but Americans didn't want to support that. They want news to be feckless entertainment, and so it is.

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    It's jarringly obvious that they are just told what to say.

    Reminds me of propaganda workers in Serbia that sometimes copy their messages along with additional instructions, so you'd see something like "LONG LIVE THE PRESIDENT but change it a bit so that it's not all the same" in the comments of news platforms.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They are all paid by the same people, Its not that hard to see which side they are on.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Usually given the exact same script too

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's just you. There's been a distinct lack of subtlety in right wing propaganda for a long time, going back at least to "this is extremely dangerous to our democracy."

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It seems to work. People, all of us, are kind of stupid and when we hear things repeated we remember them. None of us are immune to propaganda.

    Repeating something simple, and false, that appeals to emotions is going to have a bigger impact than something longer and complicated.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Totally agree. It's super important that we remember that people, all of us, are kind of stupid and when we hear things repeated we remember them. None of us are immune to propaganda.

    Repeating something simple, and false, that appeals to emotions is going to have a bigger impact than something longer and complicated.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    ban illegal immigration

    It is banned, that’s why it’s illegal

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Like, obviously they all get their marching orders from one place.

    But damn. How have they kept a seal on it?

    Its obviously refried bullshit, but their ability to stay in lockstep smacks of a state level actor.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    but their ability to stay in lockstep smacks of a state level actor.

    I guarantee you its a national group like the Heritage Foundation or TPUSA issuing these talking points. Just because the opposition is organized doesn't mean their foreign backed. That's just conspiratorial thinking.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I guarantee you its a national group like the Heritage Foundation or TPUSA issuing these talking points.

    Thats the right answer. I just don't get how they've kept it from leaking.

    That’s just conspiratorial thinking.

    It can be both conspiratorial and true.

    I think rightwing movements have become victims to a kind of "ideological spear fishing" coming out of Russia for decades.

    NRA: Russian funded.

    Rightwing astroturfed podcasters: Russian funded.

    European rightwing movements: Russian funded.

    Its obvious that right wing movements were coopted decades ago to weaken and collapse western Democracies. So when it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and smears shit all over the walls like a duck, maybe its a fucking duck*?

    *[ apologies to any ducks whom I might have besmirched comparing them to rw'ers ]

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    So in the world where spooky Russians didn't interfere with our politicians, the parties representing the capitalist class would... not do that? This isn't new. We've seen how capitalism led to the rise of fascism as a direct consequence of the needs of the system wayyyyy before Russia got involved in anything.

    If you have a good analysis of how systems work, you don't need to imagine or uncover conspiracy theories to explain that which can already be explained simply through incentives. Whether or not Russia has been meddling is missing the point.

    EDIT: Just to explain my frustration a bit better: When people focus on this over the core class issue, at best it's running cover for capitalists, but at worst it's playing into the kind of fearmongering that the government uses to manufacture consent for the military industrial complex. The more they can convince us that there are scary enemies out there who want to destroy us, the easier it is for them to justify giving even more money to defense contractors and expanding the scope and authority of the military, intelligence agencies, etc. It's giving more and more power to the people actually responsible for oppressing us.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Subtlety is for the 2010s. We in the propaganda finger paint by numbers era now (and none of the numbers will be brown!).

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I mean, they don't need to convince their base when it is comprised of loyal cultists.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Counter point. Those countries are sending us hot chicks.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    so immigrants are only welcome when they're hot?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    The nice thing about being a Russian asset? Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V all day.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    its because they are getting thier talking points from putin, who is paying all of thier income.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Post this message at least nine times or you will have bad luck!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    All those problems are the result of corporate greed.

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    Like the white South Africans right? Right?!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    The term has been hijacked from it's original meaning, much like irony.

    That said, it's so dumb. The folks from developing countries are much more likely to be on "their side". People from developing countries tend to be a great deal more religious. While folks from the EU tend to be less religious, and want more "socialist" programs from the government.

    But of course they can't get over their racism to even make any good decisions.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Turns out chatbots are just "intelligent" enough to copy/paste shit and change it a little so it doesn't get automatically removed.

    Also the DOJ told us these people take money from the Kremlin.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It's just so lazy.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    lol America may as well be a “third world country”

    Why would anyone from a developed country come to the rapidly deteriorating US?

    Idiocracy.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Most con shit is stupid by design, like those scam emails that are deliberately written in broken English so that only stupid people will fall for them. Why would they bother writing something complex when they need an army of morons to lap up the talking points?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    When a group pf people all share the same one brain cell, they tend to repeat each other.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Scruffy astroturfers!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If public services are underfunded, why are Trump and the Reds cutting those services?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    That's why they failed to save practically any money after cutting those services

    They cut some incredibly cheap incredibly effective programs

    The big money goes to big companies and petrochemical companies

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    If you want less immigration then stop foreign policies that help fuck up other countries. Not saying that is the only cause but in the long run probably more effective than rounding up random people from the street.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Always was.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's the slow boiled frog. People on the outside notice but the fox viewers don't.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They are all part of the broader complex of "new media". You have these guys on the right. Tim Poole is centerish. I don't know much about the left side of the controlled media sphere but I'm sure they exist and are funded by the same people. If anyone listens to these guys they don't value their own time.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago

    Who cares? Everything is naked these days.

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