That cops are spending time and effort to create fake circumstances (of a very real violation of rights) to arrest people that are acting from those societal rights being transgressed is disgusting.
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entrapment?
Unfortunately not, entrapment involves coercing a person to commit a crime they wouldn't have otherwise. Simply giving someone an opportunity to commit a crime isn't considered entrapment under the law.
No it's the same scenario as a prostitution sting, or a bait car for vehicle thefts. They provide the false situation but they aren't convincing anyone to do anything, they are still choosing to commit that crime on their own.
Even if whether these devices should even be legal in the first place is questionable. Legally, currently, they are private property being vandalized.
I put out cardboard cutouts of minorities on the streets and film cops as they beat them up.
I don't understand the charges because they appear to be based on real cameras
I don’t understand how the cops didn’t get shot at, but that’s just me.
Why would people be shooting at the cops?
👆 this guuuy amirite?
Are you trying to be edgy and indicate that people should shoot all cops? Do you think that sounds reasonable?
I’m not being edgy at all, magat.
So you're essentially an anarchist who believes in killing random cops?
I don’t think that you know what an anarchist is, And I don’t think you understand what a cop does for a living. It’s not protect and serve… the people.
Isn’t that entrapment?
Dollar amount determines felony, how is that enough?
They just need the news stories to impart doubt. Doesn't matter if they aren't convicted.
Shit, they don't even really need to do it. They just need the news to say they are.
As a 3D printing enthusiast, I forever wish tangled filament and nozzle clogs to befall upon the cops who make these decoys.
Couldn't they just "swoop in" on any camera? It's not like the decoy looks so much more inviting to destroy.
If they’re fake, how do they know if/when people are tampering with them?
It's a trap, they're watching them.
So they can charge them with vandalising a fake piece made of plastic?
It's still a real physical object being intentionally broken by someone that doesn't own it.
Keep on mind, I'm absolutely NOT defending it, I'm just explaining the logic.
I understand, but the value of the destroyed ‘object’ is ridiculous so the penalty has to be minimal.
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Oh, and what if the ‘culprit’ just covers the fake camera?
Using force against individual cameras is not going to be succesful in the long run. It's like punching Nazis in the street... sure, it looks and feels good, but you're not hurting the people who benefit from having them around. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
I know it's not the 'correct' fight to have, but I think it's good to use the fact that anti-flock action is in the social media zeitgeist and keep supporting people; it is laying groundwork for civil disobedience we need.
it’s good to use the fact that anti-flock action is in the social media zeitgeist
It is in the social media zeitgeist - that's why piggy is capitalising on it with the above tactic. It's an escalation on their side, and it's a good one because they can make the small group of people willing to make physical attacks on their surveillance infrastructure even smaller through indimidation at little cost. The question is... does the other side have something of their own to play the escalation game?
What other options do we have?
I want to see someone put up fake cameras till the cops take them down then report them
That's actually brilliant. Imagine just setting up the camera an inch from the other one and right in front of it, pointed at it.
When you eventually get questioned, say you have a secret contract with city council.
Heck just putting them up randomly and then claiming a secret contract would enrage Flock lmao.
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