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[–] 59 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Aside from the many issues with the spelling and grammar, nobody is really focusing on the actual point of this post.

The fact is that there are millions of gamers (well, bots, too) that pre-ordered this game before ever seeing any gameplay footage.

Far too many will buy the deluxe edition and R* will make so much money that they'll probably piss themselves from laughing at posts like this.

Gamers, especially sports game enthusiasts, are always ready to bend over and lube up for the publishers.

The launch of GTA 6 will reinforce the anti-consumerist behavior of most triple-A studios.

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  • [+] -17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    I mean, I’m gonna be honest here… I’ve been duped before by games (15 years old fallout 4 fuck you bethesda) but a game like GTA 6 is kindof too big to fail. Like it’s already gonna be one of the highest selling games ever, no doubt. And I don’t think anything about how any one company acts is gonna change the way the “industry as a whole” operates. This is just what they do to us, no matter what. Rockstar makes good games, great games even.

    I’m gonna shell out too much money for this dumb game cuz I’m gonna get a lot of fun out of it when I’m shacked up in the winter. I grew up playing games like this casually and the effect that has on even anti-corporate people like me is huge. I just wanna have some fun while the world ends. Idk people have every right to shit all over rockstar, but the whole hacker leaking situation(s) just made me realize that the discourse surrounding major events like this is damn near poison, especially in “normie” communities. It’s kinda funny to see rockstar get fucked over and over when they coulda just announced the damn game when they knew it was finished.

    I guess my point is that I don’t know what anyone would be shocked at a billion dollar company to act this way. It’s like when Trump does Trump stuff, the media goes insane and calls it unprecedented when it’s just the same stuff he always does and that Reagan, The Bushes, Clinton, and even Obama has done before, just switch politicians with corporate.

    It’s like if Apple got hacked and someone leaked the brand new iPhone or iMac or IOS, and people were like Oh my god what’s apple gonna say are they even gonna release !? Of course they would, and they’d drop a statement about how much they love apple fans and probably announce a new subscription to see the new IOS before it’s out, and reiterate that it’s because they LOVE you.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You like the feeling of getting screwed enough that you don’t resent it. Noted.

    And you call yourself anti-corporate and follow it up with I just want to have fun while the world ends and all the richies do it, so it isn’t that bad. What does anti-corporate mean to you?

    And lastly, your Apple comparison is nonsensical. They sell a physical product and their digital products can essentially only run on their physical ones. They don’t lose sales from a leak in the same way a playable PC version of GTA VI could.

    That said, of course rockstar will still release it, especially since a functioning playable version hasn’t leaked to the public at this point.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago

    If someone’s experience with the GTA franchise is “every time I’ve played GTA, I’ve had a blast” then how is expecting the game to be good screwing yourself?

    You make it sound like people hate GTA games, yet still just eat them up. There’s a reason they are ridiculously popular, and it’s not because rockstar is greedy.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I did not say “all the riches do it so I should too”. We’re talking about video games here.

    I don’t understand your point to be honest. All I’m ever used to is corporate ass fucking, excuse my French. My Apple comparison was deliberate because hear me out: With GTA, you know exactly what product you’re getting when you sign up. With Apple, you know exactly what product you’re getting when you sign up. I’m not surprised that people decide to buy the next IPhone before it’s even announced or advertised, it’s an IPhone, it’s too big to fail.

    If GTA 6 is a bad, no fun experience, I’ll eat my words. But in no world by purchasing it (I don’t pre order games anymore) am I in love with “the feeling of being screwed”.

    I grew up in 2000s America, buddy. I knew what loot boxes and micro transactions were before I knew who Karl Marx even was. I grew up on Sony and other corporate record labels selling me products like Punk Rock as anti-establishment art. All I’ve ever known is the feeling of being fucked by corporations.

    And I’m sorry to say, but story wise, RDR2 is one of the best games I’ve ever played. GTA 4 & 5, when they came out, 2 of the best games I’ve ever played. Compare that directly to Fallout new Vegas, my favorite game ever to Fallout 4, which I hated and I did not enjoy playing really at all. I’ve stopped caring about Bethesda as a company 100%.

    It’s like when they announced Better Call Saul, I didn’t ever glaze it before watching and I wasn’t thrilled about it being Netflix but I know that team doesn’t hire sub-par writers, amd it’s a prequel to my favorite TV show.

    I’m a man with simple tastes, even basic taste in movies, TV and Video Games. I’m not afraid to admit that. Rockstar games are for people like me: simple, story driven, mindless fun and you can kill cops. All that stuff is gonna be in GTA 6 so I’m gonna play it and probably have fun.

    Sorry if that bothers you, if you really think being anti corporate is just not engaging with buying anything then I got bad news for you, no ethical consumption under capitalism and all that

    You should probably abstain from seeing any movies, buying electronics, playing videogames, eating fast food and literally all restaurant food (unless you love Sysco, USFoods), cars, reading books/manga, Sports, music, streaming CDs or records/casettes, concerts/festivals/, YouTube, the list goes on but I digress cuz I gotta actually get off the shitter and go work lol

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Your previous post heavily implied that you preordered and are defending that despite your views.

    By all means if you wait for the reception, some actual gameplay footage or reviews and like it, then by all means buy it.

    The original commenter seemed to mostly complain about people preordering it blindly...

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  • [–] 113 points 2 months ago (50 children)

    Why the fuck does nobody know the difference between loose and lose anymore? I swear this wasn't a thing that was commonly confused a few years back.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 months ago (26 children)

    That's the least of the grammatical problems in that post.

    "We can't say how much pissed we are because you would see how greed we really are."

    :eyetwitch:

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    Yeah, I just assumed that English wasn't the writers first language.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    There's a lot of stuff where native speakers make more mistakes than people who learn the language later in life, though. Not just with English.

    It's vs. its is a classic, which is written very differently in many other languages. I suspect they mix them up less when they switch to English.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Non-native speakers tend to make mistakes with "its" vs "it's" because they learn that in English the rule for when to after a "subject" put an apostrophe followed by an "s" is when you're talking about something that subject has, but this case is an exception to that rule since " it " followed " 's " stands for " it is " whilst talking about something that " it " has is written " its ".

    I mean, you can memorize there's an exception to the rule for this case, but if you're not paying enough attention when writting it's easy to make a mistake by unthinkingly following the rule as usual even though in this case it doesn't apply, and even if you re-read the text to check if it's alright, it's easy to miss it because you kinda have the right meaning in your mind so you read what you meant to write rather than what you wrote plus they're both valid forms so neither stands out as a spelling mistake even when misused.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

    If only someone could invent some kind of computerised grammar checking utility. ;)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    You clearly aren't from an "english is the third language" country. I would not write like that but also I didn't notice the grammar errors until they were pointed out, my brain filtered them through.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    "filtered them through" < "allowed them through, unfiltered" 🙇🏼‍♂️

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    However you wanna describe it, the point is that we tend to look for the meaning behind the words because we are used to hearing badly spoken English.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    You do recognize the difference, though, regardless of "however [I] wanna describe it", yes? 😅

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    I did intend to say that I filtered the grammatical errors through, meaning that my brain was reading the pure meaning. You said that I allowed the errors through unfiltered, which is incorrect in my interpretation of the sentence since that would imply I would not be able to parse the meaning correctly, having to deal with grammar mistakes.

    Think about it, if you try to eat a porridge with chunks, you need to do extra effort processing the chunks through, hey spend time with them. But if you filter the chunks through, you can process the porridge faster. So no, your correction is incorrect actually, I meant what I said.

    It's not that deep though, which is why I said that it really doesn't matter how you want to describe it.

    PD: Also, the way you formed that sentence is annoying. Why don't you explain the difference yourself instead of expecting others to do all the legwork in a conversation? You ask if I recognise THE difference, but there are many differences between those sentences in a given context, it depends on how you interpret it. It's low key rude.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    You're certainly allowed to feel your feelings, though they don't change the simple fact that "filtering" by not filtering is literally impossible.

    Also, the aforementioned difference is "lose" vs. "loose", fellow anon. Try not to knot your knickers this time. 😅🙃

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    You are not understanding my sentence. I said that my brain was filtering the grammar errors for me.

    Your statement is correct but the brain IS filtering stuff for you, all the time. Every sensory signal is filtered through your subconscious mind before it reaches your conscious mind.

    Saying that the brain filters grammar errors is a completely correct statement, I'm really not getting why you are saying that you can't filter stuff by not filtering them, it's a correct statement but it just doesn't apply.

    Your written tone is very condescending for someone that is missing the original point, come on.

    Oh my god, I think I finally got your comment. You meant that the sentence "filtered it through" is incorrect for the intent of filtering something, the world "through" should be eliminated. Yes? Because filtering something through is letting it in little by little, while my intent was to say that the errors weren't being let in since they were filtered subconsciously. That was what you meant?

    Please do confirm if this was your original intent, I'm very confused. If it was low key damn you for not being more clear but also sorry for misunderstanding and making a mountain out of a molehill (I think I used this idiom correctly).

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (11 children)

    Hear me out:

    Id rather see mistakes like this than

    • three
    • sus
    • bullets

    And not just bullets, but also other obvious signs of AI slop — emdash included.

    Would you like me to-

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    I dont usually bother typing apostrophes on mobile. Youll only see them from me when ive selected the recommended word while typing.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Ok, but it's not that hard, bro.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I appreciate how someone can complain about AI-speak and immediately refuse to make their text readable by humans.

    “Why would I make “ive” easier to read?”

    Not a lot of reflection in this one.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I didn't say it was hard, bro.
    My comment was not a reading comprehension test, yet you failed.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know, but a lot of people in this thread seem to suggest that it's them not being a native speaker that's the problem.

    In my experience it's actually the opposite, so many native speakers mess up things like your/you're, it's insane. Well, any time something is off about the English grammar on the internet, we blame the American education system.

    Sometimes it's funny, though. Like "for all intensive purposes".

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    The thing is, it's not a "bone apple tea" moment, having only heard it vs reading. It's a single word, and a fairly simple thing to memorize the difference between "fail/forget" and "release/relaxed/wobbly", but... people are generally pretty stupid, and the truth is scary, so here we are. 🥲

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    The amount of times I've seen this error over the last 5+ years, and until now I've not seen one comment mention it. Thank you you've restored my faith in people knowing what words mean. I've got to the point that if I see it in prose I stop reading because I assume the writer is an idiot.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I have come around to accept my occasional misspellings, incorrect verb forms, not really knowing with certainty when to use "in" or "on" and even mangled or mixed expressions whenever I write something in English (which is not my native language) as a way to show that the text was not written by AI.

    PS: My personal top English-language mistake for a number of years was "later" vs "latter" - I genuinely thought that when I saw the word "latter" written, that was a spelling mistake and one time I even "corrected" a native English speaker on it (who should've pointed out my mistake, which I would've gladly accepted since I would rather be corrected than keep on making such a dumb mistake - as I did for a few more years - but this person was very middle class English).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    As a non native speaker: where is the difference?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Lose, with only one 'o':
    Verb. To stop having something you had before, with a negative connotation. To not have success at game or competition.
    Dictionary entry: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lose

    Loose, with two 'o's:
    Adjective. It can mean the oposite of either "tight", "attached" or "controlled". It can also be a verb, and in that case it means something similar to "let loose".
    Dictionary entry: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/loose

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    It started happening to me after I degoogled my phone and predictive text no longer cares about sentence syntax. When I see it on a largely anti-google or anti-microsoft space I think that's a safe bet what's happening half the time

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    idk I always have a lil trouble with it and have to do a double take when writing it. it's just so ingrained that oo makes the u sound so theoretically lose should be spelled loose because lose should sound like lowe's. that might just be me doe

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    If lose should be spelled like loose, then how should the word loose be spelled?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Perhaps for a lot of people… English is not their native language? (Including me). Grammatical stuff will always be iffy, even in peoples own native language. I even mess up grammatical stuff in my native language, lol.

    That’s not all… auto correct helps with everything these days and thus people usually don’t really think anymore about what is the correct way to write a word. I suppose.

    Though, why do you get so upset about something like this? Just boils your blood for absolutely no reason. It’ll just keep bothering you while you can’t solve the problem. Good luck.

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    Didn't Marx say everything would become gambling?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago*
    Pirate-in-any-case.txt
    - Rockstar
    

    Any more?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    i dont see why we wont get rdr3 on this new engine. i dont expect it soon, but i think its plausable.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What's going on on that graph? 52 per ¢?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The person that wrote that used AI and didn't bother reading it afterwards and/or english isn't their forte.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I read an article by a teacher the other day, who begrudgingly rejoiced a little bit whenever she found a spelling error in a student's work. Because that meant it at least wasn't written by AI.

    It's tricky, isn't it? Will the amount of people who actually know how to spell decrease significantly because of AI?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's already decreasing, those that grow up with AI assistants won't know what writing is because all they will know is speak to the AI and it will write it for you until eventually the AI is gone (malfunction that no one can repair or it just fucks off because it doesn't want to deal with idiots anymore) and we are left with something akin to Neanderthals.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I bet the devs feel the same way too 🙄

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  • [+] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)