The premier of Manitoba advanced the idea that he's doing that on purpose to enrich his billionaire friends. Have American consumers pay more for their products to cover the tariff, then a few months later the tariff is deemed illegal, then the big corporations get a refund which they do not pass back to the consumer.

IMO I think it's a combination of people in his inner circle feeding him bad ideas, manipulating him into attacking Canada's economy. Some in hopes that a collapse of Canada's economy would allow them to turn it into a subservient resource colony, others because pushing away America's closest ally serves Russia's interest.

They're like the 5th grade bully who picks on 2nd graders. Until they finally pick on a 4th grader, gets punched in the face, whines that the 4th grader cheated or pulled a cheap shot, then goes to beat up a 3rd grader who kicked em square in the nuts, and now they're going back to 2nd and 1st graders to prove how tough they are

They're all rich kids. Their entire life is first intimidate people with "do you know who my father is" and later on to threaten to sue people until the other side backs down or runs out of cash. It's a lousy way to run a country but they don't know anything else, and especially can't deal when folks fight back successfully.

They're all a bunch of reality tv stars and media personalities. This is just show bizz to them, not governing.

They understand economics, they just don't care about the USA. The point of tariffs is to insert chaos into investment markets so that insiders can profit with advance information of what Trump will do. Hence, there is war/not war every 5 days and tariffs go on and off weekly.

This is not about the best interest of the US economy. If Republicans cared about the US economy, they would work to make healthcare insurance affordable to companies with US labor, because that is the main reason jobs moved into Mexico and Canada.

Well some of them do like Bessent and Lutnick but they also understand they can make billions shutting the fuck up and taking bribes instead.

This is the 2026/fascist edition:

Yeah, that tracks, stupid and proud may just be The American Way™

(sorry for the sane people taken hostage by moronic greedy sociopaths all the same, I know there's at least a few of you)

My city is full of Americans tourists and we still love you. But we think you guys are really dumb unfortunately.

I was at butchart gardens the other day and some American said loudly "wow it's amazing they can grow flowers in a cold country" lol

No, no. He's right. I didn't vote for him. I did vote. I wish I didn't live here. I'm doing what I can since getting out isn't really an option, but we have to acknowledge the damage and turmoil we as a collective are doing to the citizens of the world. The orange pedo might be making you're life or my life fucking miserable, but we are still probably better off than any of the families of the school children he bombed.

Telling any of them that you didn't vote for him isn't going to make them feel any better while the amount of suffering he is causing us is a fraction of the suffering he is causing other people. I'm not saying you can't be upset or that your suffering isn't valid. It's not a zero sum game, I'm just saying I think it's worth understanding where the rest of the world might be coming from right now.

Yeah fuck you and your shithole country

Even if kamala won you'd still be bombing iran and there would still be tariffs on canada

The exact same concern came up in 2016 tariffs. Doing the same thing, expecting different results.

Nah Quebec just produces a lot of aluminum. US does recycle aluminum, just a lot of it goes to the landfill.

Alcan has its own hydro power dams in Quebec.

Canada tries to use natural gas and hydroelectric.

Persian gulf States us gas or oil. Not exactly sure. Iceland uses thermo electric for theirs but scale is smaller.

Edit added link

https://natural-resources.canada.ca/minerals-mining/mining-data-statistics-analysis/minerals-metals-facts/aluminum-facts

The Canadian aluminum smelters in Arvida and Kitimat were built at the same time as the hydro electric plants that power them. The hydro generation plants were built by the Aluminum Company of Canada (Alcan) and excess power goes into the electricity grid. Very difficult to compete with that.

What is the Gulf of Messo-America?

AFAIK Mesoamerica is a region, and the gulf in that region is called the Gulf of Mexico..

The world is healing

don't underestimate the power of dumb people in large numbers.

Most states don't even have a deposit. I put mine in a box, dump the contents into a recycle bin at the dump, and hope it actually goes to a recycling plant instead of ending up with the other stuff.