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[–] 142 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (19 children)

People want doorless showers but most of them don't have the space in their bathroom that would be required to build one that works properly.

Some of them can't accept that fact and try to build one that relies entirely on the delusion that water respects boundaries.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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    Hotels love installing these things. They’re cheaper than two large shower doors, they make the room look bigger, and guests think it looks modern.

    That said, you’re kind of supposed to pair this with a rain shower head in the ceiling to reduce splash. This looks like a remodeled hotel that didn’t want to move the plumbing. They just did a cheap refresh to make people feel like they were staying in a modern room.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    I stayed at a hotel in Vegas (of course) that had no doors on theirs. Just an open, locker-room-style shower. And the floor was barely level enough to not flood the bathroom if the shower head was pointed directly at the corner. It was not pointing the right way when I turned it on.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    They're terrible. Everything you said is true, but I'll add that unless you crank up the heat in the room, they're miserable on cold days. The enclosed showers trap the steam and warmth from the how water in with you, but with no door it's just cold.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Thought that heat lamps might get rid of the chill factor?

    I have 3+ meter ceilings in all rooms including the bathroom, and the heat lamps are a godsend in winter.

    I'm looking to renovate the bathroom over the coming years and thought that an open space shower might be a great addition but maybe we will reconsider.

    I do like the Japanese prefab wet bathroom units, but not sure if they are available here, nor if the other half would approve.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

    I do. But a proper one. All tiled. No glass that is a PITA to keep clean. No curtain that gets disgusting. Just step in, shower, step out.

    But that stuff is out of reach to most people, including myself. And to be brutally honest, it is pure excess. But some people are still trying to imitate that with those crappy compact ones but it just ends up being stupid and worse than a normal shower.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I do and I have one. The downstairs shower next to the sauna is just an entire tiled room so I don't feel like I'm in a cramped space. I always use that one, even in the winter when it's basically freezing down there, because I hate the cramped booth upstairs, I have very broad shoulders and can always feel like I'm going to hit the walls.

    The one in the OP is the worst of both worlds though. Still cramped, but doesn't keep water in like a regular shower booth... and it's installed in a bathroom without a proper tiled floor...

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  • [–] 63 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    The opening is too wide, the shower head should be a rainfall shower, not the Commando 450.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I think you're dead-on. I had a 5' wide doorless shower, 3' of glass, and a rainfall showerhead and it was fine. Minimal leakage

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Wouldn't a handheld showerhead be even better? That way, you could aim the showerhead directly away from the opening, somewhat reducing the incidence of splashing.

    I know from experience that it's not sufficient, but I'm certain it minimizes the damage, and honestly I consider handheld showerheads to be superior regardless

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That just looks like an unfinished shower, or a sliding door set with a missing half. Maybe you could get a little shower curtain to hang up across the hole

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Why even have a doorless/curtainless shower? I don't understand the appeal. How is the warmth supposed to stay in so you're not shaving off the tips of goosebumps?

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (15 children)

    Shower doors are difficult to clean well, shower curtains stick to the body, space is limited (problem if you're bigger), steam can make it harder to breathe...

    Finns have figured out doorleess showers: they waterproof the whole room and equip it with a squeegee on a long stick. The floor is flat with a slight slope towards the drain. After you're done you just wipe the floor with the squeegee (takes 10 seconds) and that's it.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The Japanese did it right. Essentially the same thing you’re describing and in a way that mitigates anything commenters below you blurted out.

    Unfamiliar with Finnish techniques.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    That's still worse than just having a door. The squeegee helps, but it's not perfect, and I hate stepping on wet/damp floor after drying my feet. I mostly see that style in hotels or bathrooms which are too tiny to fit a proper shower. Whenever not space constrained, I'm pretty sure they're just there to save money.

    Building code in most if not all of northern Europe require bathrooms to be a proper wet room, meaning waterproofing and a drain for all parts of the bathroom. This means either having two drains, or to allow water to flow from the rest of the bathroom to the shower. Guess which alternative is easier and cheaper to do?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    Dude, why do you think this is the code in Northern Europe?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    I haven't checked the code in every country, but I do know it's code in Norway, and you see a lot of the same building techniques in the rest of northern Europe.

    Why do you think it is not code?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not saying it's not code, I know it's code. And it's code because they're all doing the open shower thing. Why else would they want the whole room waterproofed if not because the whole room routinely gets wet?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's still code if your shower has a door. It's not unusual to stick your washing machine in the bathroom, and even if you don't, the toilet could always overflow.

    North America is really the only place I know of where bathrooms are not required to be waterproofed throughout.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I'm saying they made it code because the doorless showers are the standard, not that putting door there would somehow invalidate the code.

    I come from another European country and the law only requires waterproofing the floor + wet areas (shower, around the bath etc.)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    And I'm saying the code is there independently of doorless showers. The code was like that before doorless showers became common.

    In fact, if your shower has a door and the only drain is inside the shower, you are required to leave a gap under the door to allow water to flow into the shower.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    I've got a staff shower at work with no door or curtain, and two drains. It's in a one person bathroom, with a toilet and sink and place to hang up items.

    If anyone takes a shower, there is water all over the floor for the next person... because without a door, the water doesn't stay in the shower zone.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    But your towel would get damp. And your poor toothbrush is gonna taste like your brother's shampoo!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    What if I like the taste of shampoo?

    But seriously, doorless doesn't have to mean completely open, for example I have a glass divider wall in my bathroom, towels and toothbrushes stay safely behind the wall.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    Well that's just bad design. The opening is wrong so of course it'll splash and the floor needs to be one level and tilted to the drain.

    I've seen some really good ones that work

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    we have one at work that doesn't have any glass at all, just the plastic fixture. we installed a curtain rod because it felt strange but yeah drain in the shower basin and a decent floor grade, followed up by non-slip tile. Works a treat the whole 2 times I used it.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Design is fine but it should be placed in the bathroom with tiles not in the midle of living room with wood floor.. 😅

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Looks like plastic to me. Or ceramic in style of wood.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Those are ceramic tiles. You can tell by the grout lines.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    My friend showers without that glass at all, and water goes all around but thats fine since tiles are all the way up to the celing. So I imagine this makes much less mess than that. Floor should be at angle so all the water goes to drain, dont see the need for those towels..

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    I looked at an apartment once where they had a proper door-less shower. You had to, like, walk around a corner to enter it. I considered leasing that apartment just because of the shower, but yeah a proper door-less shower takes up a lot of space.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    They shouldn't. If this is new enough construction, the contractor needs to fix this.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (22 children)

    My fav is the ones that just say fuck it and make the whole bathroom into a shower; as if people don't keep anything else in the bathroom, like idk towels or the clothes you're putting on after you shower...

    I didn't want a practical bathroom anyway...

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    This is the way most Japanese showers are set up, and it works well because the shower/tub, toilet, and sink/storage area are three separate rooms.

    Here is a (simplified approximation of a) common layout:

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    When the shower is literally alone in its own room, that's a little different.

    I'm talking about when the full bathroom; toilet, sink, and shower, are all in the one uninterrupted space.

    Did Dave piss on the damn toilet seat again, or is it just splash from the shower? 🤷🏻

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Just use the bum gun to spray the seat off. And then talk to Dave.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I assume you mean the kind of talking that involves fists, yes?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That's between you and Dave. No judgement.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Interesting. I thought a lot of Japanese dwellings were smaller than the average American home. But I'm in the US and my entire bathroom is like between one third and one half of this image. I don't have room for a setup like this without making the neighboring room significantlly smaller.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    There's diversity for sure. Old, rural, traditional Japanese homes are huge, most apartments are tiny, and standard single-family homes are usually somewhere in-between. The layout pictured here is most common in houses and apartments with multiple occupants; single-person apartments (especially cheaper or more modern ones) often have a more western-style "unit" bathroom with everything shoved into one room. But there's a lot of variety; for instance some places have the sink and tub/shower together while the toilet is separate. Japanese homes (especially apartments) often only have one bathroom, so separating out the bath, toilet, and sink/vanity is actually a space-saving compromise, because one person can be using the toilet, one taking a bath, and another brushing their teeth all at the same time with relative privacy without the need for a second (or third) bathroom.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, if it was built right, that would be the perfect type of bathroom. Imagine a bathroom where all the surfaces are water proof. Then, when it's time to clean the bathroom, you just hose everything down the floor drain!

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    My uni dormitory bathroom was like that, a very tiny off-white plastic cube with a toilet, sink and shower in no more than about 2 square meters.

    It looked like crap, especially with aging year by year, but it was really easy to clean indeed. Though if everything gets wet regularly, mold also has an easier time spreading, so we needed to do that "easier" cleaning more often as a result

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Dont you just leave clothes in the spa area outside your shower room? I find it easier to dress there anyway since it got more room for movement

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This is becoming a staple in cheap and mid-price hotels. I have to use half my towels to keep the floor from being wet.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Get a spring-loaded window curtain rod, and notch the end that goes against the glass, so it doesn't slip. Throw on a shower curtain liner (they're cheap) and call it a day.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, I don't get this new trend of doorless showers. One of the many modern interior designs I think are bad/ugly. What's the deal with modern minimalism? Shit is ugly.

    Also, this kind of design is gonna make for cold ass showers in the winter unless you pump your heat all day and night.

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